just came to the conclusion hopkins was clearly robbed

[Chunk..]

but guess what????? hopkins ACTUALLY HIT HIM !!!!

But here's the punchline..............Hopkins didn't do **** in the latter part of the fight.

All he did was clinch and fake a low blow. He ran out of gas, and Calzaghe looked the aggressor and the judges saw this and that swung it if his favour.

He couldn't keep up with the pace. Calzaghe is like a Duracell bunny, he keeps on going.

Workrate is Calzaghe's biggest asset.

Hopkins just didn't have enough in the tank to get it done.

[AintGottaClue]

i too think hopkins won that fight with the knockdown probally being a deciding factor however it was close i would love to see a rematch, the scores for that fight were horrible one judge had joe winning 9 rounds!!!!

[brooklyn kid]

Depends what you mean by "flush". Hopkins landed two or three flashy counters. Calzaghe landed ten rounds worth of crappy awful slaps. Hopkins DID NOT WORK ENOUGH. Remember that the principal scoring method is to land CLEAN and EFFECTIVE punches. Hopkins' punches were CLEAN. Calzaghe's punches were EFFECTIVE as evidenced by the fact that Old Man Poppers was wrecked by the tenth. And Calzaghe landed more of them.

Here's a sports analogy: Two football teams face off. One of them scores three magnificent goals, from distance, clever highlight reel stuff, the other gets two scrappy efforts that were just as easily in as out, an own goal and one which looked like it was mis-hit... who wins? The one with four goals... This is it, boxing is scored by rounds. If you win a round comprehensively you're a point up. If you get a knockdown or have a particularly one sided round you're two points up. There are twelve rounds. This is why at the top level boxers can't afford to take rounds off.

I get your point but, the point is even if it were own goals they were goals
punches dont count unless they hit the torso or the head shoulders and arms
dont count.

ok a game of basketball one guy takes 20 shots they go in and out 20 times
another guy takes 3 shots they all go in who wins?? the basketball shot that almost went in 20 times or the guy that took only three shots but went in all three

[Scott9945]

Cant believe this is still an issue. It wasnt a robbery. Quit crying.

Exactly. Everyone who had Hopkins winning scored the fight 114-113. That alone makes it impossible for it to be a robbery. I had Joe by at least two points.

[link2296]

you answer my all my questions except one.

why didnt joe hit bernard flush ONE TIME I MEAN COME ON COULD
YOU WIN A FIGHT NOT LANDING ONE PUNCH.

Willie pep has been put to shame

At the end of one of the rounds, not sure which one...haven't seen the fight in a while, Clazaghe lands a perfect left hand and possibly hurts Hopkins...Hopkins can't find his corner after that shot!! I think HBO shows that left hand shot by Calzaghe during the countdown for Pavlik Hopkins fight while Freddie Roach is talking.

To this day, i believe that both men underestimated each other...this is why a rematch is a necessity!!

[link2296]

i too think hopkins won that fight with the knockdown probally being a deciding factor however it was close i would love to see a rematch, the scores for that fight were horrible one judge had joe winning 9 rounds!!!!

I honestly had Joe winning the fight 8 rounds to 4 with a 2 point round for Hopkins in the first. Fact of the matter is, Hopkins didn't fight...he ran the whole time and only threw one punch at a time. You cannot expect to win a fight with a decision if you don't throw any punches!! If you score for headbuts and clinches, oh and don't forget the fake injury, Hopkins wins by a landslide!!

He just didn't do enough to merit a victory!!

[letsgobrady]

I honestly had Joe winning the fight 8 rounds to 4 with a 2 point round for Hopkins in the first. Fact of the matter is, Hopkins didn't fight...he ran the whole time and only threw one punch at a time. You cannot expect to win a fight with a decision if you don't throw any punches!! If you score for headbuts and clinches, oh and don't forget the fake injury, Hopkins wins by a landslide!!

He just didn't do enough to merit a victory!!

i had it the same

[WESS]

I'm sorry I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with the section of the rules of the sport that states that there is a different burden on a challenger than there is on the champion to achieve victory. Perhaps you could enlighten me.



I'm sorry, I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with the section of the rules that requires a certain amount of facial damage to be displayed before victory can be awarded. Perhaps you can enlighten me.



If Calzaghe was as careless and sloppy as you say he wouldn't be undefeated. How is it he has won 45 straight fights with some 32 stoppages if he is "wild" and "sloppy"? He must have some other qualities, perhaps you could name them.



I'm sorry, I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with the section of the rules which requires that the victor have an acceptable level of highlight clips before a decision is announced. Perhaps you can enlighten me.



No it isn't. I think you would find it difficult to think of a less apt sports analogy than that. There are twelve rounds. Bernard Hopkins had two good rounds that he won clearly, the rest was a mixture of wild flurries and clinches. The reason I had Calzaghe winning was that he managed to land the better and more frequent punches in the majority of the rounds. His punching was sloppier than usual (because Hopkins is that good) but they weren't really any more sloppy than clinching, headbutting and feigning injury continually. And at least they were punches.

To the topic starter:

"Damn I had Bernard Hopkins edging Calzaghe in a close fight! That Split Decision awarded to the other guy was a TOTAL robbery!"

"I'm sorry. I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar" with your lack of reading abilities. If one would go back to read my entire post, one would notice its states as of recent or another words "in the last few years", the part you "forgot" to mention son. I'm sure next time you'll have the reading thing down before you post. I have faith in ya.

To answer your question though, his record has nothing to do with how wide open and careless he is. Actually to be honest one could say his career speaks for it self (which is why he wont be an ATG) and his record has no justification on him being sloppy and careless because his record is full of mediocre fighters and with no one of the caliber of Jones jr. Of course he has old man Eubank, "Mini Mike" lacy, Robot Kessler and Old man Hop. With Hop being a SD that could have went either way but got a gift with an ugly bow. Which HEY what do you know, brings me to my point.

In this fight he was "CARELESS" "WILD" and could'nt land anything clean, a lot of air though. he slapped the **** out of some air. Like stated before this is where Jones will counter and make him pay for these attributes.

Clear enough? I know you are very unaware. Its cool though....

[brooklyn kid]

At the end of one of the rounds, not sure which one...haven't seen the fight in a while, Clazaghe lands a perfect left hand and possibly hurts Hopkins...Hopkins can't find his corner after that shot!! I think HBO shows that left hand shot by Calzaghe during the countdown for Pavlik Hopkins fight while Freddie Roach is talking.

To this day, i believe that both men underestimated each other...this is why a rematch is a necessity!!

it clearly shows joe cortez spinning hopkins around as the bell rings

**** this was even said during the countdown to pavlik-hopkins

NICE JOB SMOKEY!!!!

[S A M U R A I]

I'm done with that fight. Forget it. They both looked like ****.

^^^

The most sensible post so far in the thread.

Calzaghe and Hopkins have a weird cancellation effect going on. Neither of them would ever look good fighting each other. Never. Their styles are completely different and it's a horrible matchup.

Everyone needs to move on, stop being mad at Joe Calzaghe, and if they really have a problem worth talking about, write a letter of complaint to the judges who gave the fight to Joe. Otherwise, stop whining. You will never change anything by crying about it.



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