Who has the better resume at 130? Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquaio?

[shadeyfizzle]

They were the draw of the division. Why didnt any of them fight Guzman? certainly not because he was not good enough...

It is true that Morales is the one of the 3 who actually fought some 130 fighters, and Pacman lost to him, when Erik was losing fight after fight...

Yes, because Guzman was not good enough. He wasnt even champ until he won the belt from humberto sotto on the cofeature of Barrera-Juarez 1. In this time frame Pac vs Morales 2 had already taken place with 3 already signed, Barrera the wbc champ and Marquez the wbc 126champ. And when Morales beat Pac the 1st time the only fight he had lost at 130 was to Barrera.

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I understand what you mean, but my point is, why is it safe to discount all his losses at those early weights (which i do), but its ok to put him on a pedastool because of it? If the greatness matches the weight classes he fought in, then the losses should count as well.

I dont agree with that logic, but even though pac started at 108, which is commendable, it doesnt have much bearing on weather or not mayweather would have had the better resume at 130, nor does it really examine the fact, which has already been pointed out, that pacs career as a full grown man started at 122.

yeah point taken

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Yes, because Guzman was not good enough. He wasnt even champ until he won the belt from humberto sotto on the cofeature of Barrera-Juarez 1. In this time frame Pac vs Morales 2 had already taken place with 3 already signed, Barrera the wbc champ and Marquez the wbc 126champ. And when Morales beat Pac the 1st time the only fight he had lost at 130 was to Barrera.

*he won his belt from Barrios.


LOL Guzman was so not good that he was, and still is, unbeaten

and 2 div champ (skipping 126 in between).

the FACT is that Pacman faced Morales and Barrera at 130 only when they were coming off losses.

[-Hyperion-]

62 guys deserving of ignore so far.........even my boy dwiens going with names only.....

[JoartCC]

62 guys deserving of ignore so far.........even my boy dwiens going with names only.....

I'm not fighting to prove to the fans whos the best...

I wanna fight Cotto but not right now...

Educate yourself moron...

Oh wait...

Gayweather fans will never learn.

[Pugilistic™]

Mayweather has a better resume.

[shadeyfizzle]

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the FACT is that Pacman faced Morales and Barrera at 130 only when they were coming off losses.

Both controversial losses in close fights you can argue they won.

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Both controversial losses in close fights you can argue they won.

you can just as well also argue pacman lost to marquez

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Both controversial losses in close fights you can argue they won.

ALSO,
Morales beat Pacman after a close fight (Barrera) and lost against Pacman after a thorough loss (Raheem). So I don't know what's exactly our point...

[shadeyfizzle]

ALSO,
Morales beat Pacman after a close fight (Barrera) and lost against Pacman after a thorough loss (Raheem). So I don't know what's exactly our point...

We're still talking about the weight of Pac's resume at 130 as opposed to mayweather right? We agree that whether Barrera morales and marquez are true 130ers is debatable but their truest tests at the weight were all razor thin margins against each other, with the raheem loss taking place at 135, not 130.