Chad Dawson vs Joe Calzaghe

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  • Ryn0
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    #21
    Now damn, two of my favourite boxers. I'll chicken out and say Draw

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    • Kris Silver
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      #22
      Originally posted by Terrible...
      you are a silly fan boy Calzaghe would struggle just as much with Johnson and you ****ing know it he struggle with Sakio ****ing Bika

      im not going to bother making a big post its clear you are not interested in talking objectively without letting Calz biased get in the way im out
      I've backed things up with actual reasoning's of each fighter mentioned. People have said Dawson looked confused with Johnson, and paid Tarver too much respect. I merely agree and make the point a more varied and tactical e Calzaghe would confuse him more.

      Hardly a radical view Terrible and infact I've even said a Dawson of now would quite possible beat Calzaghe 5 years ago. Further more Dawson in a couple of years could well be experienced and varied enough to beat Calzaghe of now. But as of now he's just not slick, varied and stubborn enough in the ring.

      Mean while you've mostly given simple interpretations and passed them off as fact. We all know this happened, we all know this would happen, blah blah blah.

      No you've listed your interpretation and arrogantly fobbed it off as fact. Your the stubborn one whom can't accept others views if they dis-agree with you Terrible.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #23
        I've backed things up with actual reasoning's of each fighter mentioned. People have said Dawson looked confused with Johnson, and paid Tarver too much respect. I merely agree and make the point a more varied and aggressive Calzaghe would confuse him more.
        You think Dawson was confused by Johnson? How so? He struggled but...I don't think he was confused. "Gee, I wonder what Johnson's gonna do now? Box?"

        Hardly radical a radical view Terrible and infact I've even said a Dawson of now would quite possible beat Calzaghe 5 years ago. Further more Dawson in a couple of years could well be experienced and varied enough to beat Calzaghe of now. But as of now he's just not slick, varied and stubborn enough in the ring.
        He's plenty slick, plenty stubborn. In fact, the onus is on you to show he isn't either of those two things. In fact, the real question is...how does Calzaghe attack Dawson?

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #24
          Originally posted by KrisSilver
          I've backed things up with actual reasoning's of each fighter mentioned. People have said Dawson looked confused with Johnson, and paid Tarver too much respect. I merely agree and make the point a more varied and tactical e Calzaghe would confuse him more.

          Hardly a radical view Terrible and infact I've even said a Dawson of now would quite possible beat Calzaghe 5 years ago. Further more Dawson in a couple of years could well be experienced and varied enough to beat Calzaghe of now. But as of now he's just not slick, varied and stubborn enough in the ring.

          Mean while you've mostly given simple interpretations and passed them off as fact. We all know this happened, we all know this would happen, blah blah blah.

          No you've listed your interpretation and arrogantly fobbed it off as fact. Your the stubborn one whom can't accept others views if they dis-agree with you Terrible.

          yeah thats right i have not given of facts unlike you have in bold

          i can accept anyones point of view its just i like to debate the reasoing behind their point of view and if like yours it contradicts commonsene then i challenge them nothing wrong with that if people dont like it frankly i dont give a **** ,fan boys like you are the worst too

          ive not said anything is fact in my post where as you have and none of what you said is fact t.w.a.t

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          • SkillspayBills
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            #25
            Calzaghe will out output Dawson and will just outwork him to take the decision.

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            • -Antonio-
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              #26
              How is Calzaghe going to outwork somebody who throws back so much?

              Lacy? A snail.
              Kessler? Way too mechanical.
              Hopkins? Could only pot shot.
              Eubank? Same as above.

              Dawson wont just rival Calzaghe's workrate, he'll mix his punches up better than anyone Calz has faced. And when he leaves himself squared up, he'll pay for it more than ever. Dawson is a young dog Joe doesnt need to fight.

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              • MANGLER
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                #27
                Chad over tarver don't have nothin to do wit a Joe C fight. I'd pick Joe to beat him handily.

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                • -Antonio-
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                  #28
                  Dawson's punch resistance doesnt come into play against a soft puncher. If his opponenet cant stun him, Dawson is very dangerous imo.

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                  • Kris Silver
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    You think Dawson was confused by Johnson? How so? He struggled but...I don't think he was confused. "Gee, I wonder what Johnson's gonna do now? Box?"


                    He's plenty slick, plenty stubborn. In fact, the onus is on you to show he isn't either of those two things. In fact, the real question is...how does Calzaghe attack Dawson?
                    Where's the detailed argument on the other side being asked of me? Yet to see much.

                    I've watched the Dawson Johnson fight twice, not for a couple of months but there were several points where Dawson looked as if he had no answer to Johnsons on slaughts. His face, his expressions. I can't say more than that, watch the fight back or agree to disagree. A few times in his corner he looked deflated and like he was being out hustled, and not saying much or in the way of what he needed to do. Because he didn't know what, hence it being so close and Dawson losing in many peoples eyes.

                    Heck even some of the commentators comments would probably back me up somewhat and a lot of posts around the time of the fight were of the vein that Dawson at times looked confused, apprehensive and not throwing enough.

                    These are for starters things you never see from Calzaghe. In short, I'd predict Joe to be a more tactful, subtle version of an aggressive Johnson. He'd adapt to avoid the counters from Dawson like he did with Hopkins. He wouldn't get impatient start swinging for a KO and get into trouble as he rarely does. His movement would be slightly better, he'd be rolling and turning way more like he often does. He's faster than both Johnson and Tarver so combined he'd be much harder to hit. Although he would a good few ones I'm sure. He also wouldn't fight in spurts like someone else here said, providing openings and allowing Dawson to gather his own confidence and pace. I've written enough, I don't why I should go into further detail when I've seen nothing on the other side of the argument in the same vein, just picking and disagreeing and the odd more simple oh he'd murder him with rough aggression.

                    Tell me in such detail anyone, what of the things I've reasonably pointed out Calzaghe stronger than Johnson and Tarver in, and strengths would you dispute or accept? Why in such detail would Dawson beat Calzaghe?
                    Last edited by Kris Silver; 10-12-2008, 09:10 AM.

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                    • revs1227
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                      #30
                      your ridiculousss ..ata catch weight calzaghe will destroy him ..give the man teh respect he deserves ...do you have any idea was joe would have done 2 tarver? tarver is terrible

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