Hatton: Three more hits and I'm out

[lparm]

Hatton has already proved himself (nothing he can do to prove himself to his haters so he doesn't need to worry about them, just keep ignoring them) at 140. He's getting old, has been in plenty of tough fights and always said from the beginning he wasn't going to fight past 30.

I've no problems with Hatton taking the biggest money fights he can get before he hangs 'em up. Ricky Hatton has already had a HOF career.

Hatton HOF? I dont think so, outside of beating a great fighter in Tszyu he hasnt really beaten any top guys. Had he beaten Floyd you'd have a much better argument.

[Texas Made]

I dont know why everyone one his hateing on his wish list for fights to end his career its not like their some far fetched fights, he would destroy pac, probably lose to DLH but i think itd be a good fight and i'd personally love to see him get another crack at floyd now that Sr is training him cuz now hattons gonna have a defense and a jab! so just relax and let him rake in that paper in the process.

[Fox McCloud]

Chad Dawson's looked far from spectacular in the past several fights I've seen him (minus vs Adamek, Ruiz and Mendoza .. the last of those 2 being outmatched .. ala Cherry)

but last time out Dawson had his struggles when in with a live opponent such as Glenn Johnson.

uh I think you meant against Cherry, and I get what your saying

but is measuring Bradley's efforts vs Edner Cherry .. a career lightweight
fair to the rest of the 140 pound division?

Tim Bradley dominated a natural lightweight. how does that reflect how he'd do against the best fighters?

good performance or not, IMO it's not an accurate judgment. Bradley vs Witter would be a much more valid claim

I was in class when I wrote my last post, so it didn't sounds how I wanted it to...

I was just trying to say that you can't write someone off after a good performance, whether it was against a live body or a bum. He's undefeated, has a belt, beat a dangerous opponent in Witter (I didn't see that fight, otherwise I could give some analysis about it), and is in a very weak divison.

I think beating Witter > anything Malignaggi has done.

Hatton has already proved himself (nothing he can do to prove himself to his haters so he doesn't need to worry about them, just keep ignoring them) at 140. He's getting old, has been in plenty of tough fights and always said from the beginning he wasn't going to fight past 30.

I've no problems with Hatton taking the biggest money fights he can get before he hangs 'em up. Ricky Hatton has already had a HOF career.

Tszyu who retired immediately after the fight.
Castillo, who has won once since the Hatton loss, which was against a guy with a less than memorable career thus far. Seems like he was pretty shot during the fight too.

What exactly constitutes a HOF career? Don't just call me a hater, make arguments about why his wins will get him in the HOF, I really want to know.

[Addition]

Just ignore Johnny Rebel, he's just a delusional fanboy.

[MJ406]

fair enough Bradley has looked more impressive then Paulie I'll give him that and he's still undefeated.

"I think beating Witter > anything Malignaggi has done."

well to his credit Paulie like it or not has defended his title more times but it'll be beside the point as I don't see Malignaggi getting by Hatton next month

What exactly constitutes a HOF career? Don't just call me a hater, make arguments about why his wins will get him in the HOF, I really want to know.[/QUOTE]

good question, I dunno the victory over Kostya will still be looked at very highly, even if he did retire right after his bout with Hatton. and same regarding Castillo, shot or not, it's a nice resume booster.

plus if he gets by Malignaggi, Hatton's body of work at 140 speaks for itself, he's dominated there, remained undefeated and beat the Linear Champ. and on top of all that has a record of 44-1

^ if all that doesn't make him a HOFer I dunno what will

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Doesnt everyone get in the HOF these days? Hatton may get in based on his popularity alone.

Having said that, people underrate the Tszyu win. Everyone's an expert afterwards. Hatton was probably a bigger underdog than Gary Lockett was against Pavlik earlier this year. Even though Tszyu had been inactive, people were expecting him to KO Hatton with the first right hand he landed. Hatton's tactics won him the fight that night.

[Fox McCloud]

Doesnt everyone get in the HOF these days? Hatton may get in based on his popularity alone.

Having said that, people underrate the Tszyu win. Everyone's an expert afterwards. Hatton was probably a bigger underdog than Gary Lockett was against Pavlik earlier this year. Even though Tszyu had been inactive, people were expecting him to KO Hatton with the first right hand he landed. Hatton's tactics won him the fight that night.

That's true, but a prime Tszyu did not have a habit of getting so tired in the late rounds that he has to quit... That specific way that the fight ended shows that there was quite a bit of deterioration in Tszyu, right?

Being an underdog before the fight doesn't particularly make it as big of a win as the odds would make it seem.

Calzaghe showed that Lacy was pretty ****ing limited, even if he was an underdog before the fight. Fights since that have shown that Lacy is less than he seemed, so Calzaghe doesn't get to claim the full weight of the Lacy hype before the fight.

I think that sucks, but there is no better way to do it. No one can criticize him for taking the Lacy fight though... that would be ridiculous.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

That's true, but a prime Tszyu did not have a habit of getting so tired in the late rounds that he has to quit... That specific way that the fight ended shows that there was quite a bit of deterioration in Tszyu, right?.

But I think had Tszyu been fighting almost anyone else that night, he would've won. Tszyu didnt like pressure - Vince Phillips wore him down and stopped him. Hatton's swarming, mauling, head-in-the-chest pressure took its toll on Tszyu. Had he been facing a slick boxer or a counter-puncher or had Hatton adopted different tactics, I think we'd have seen a Tszyu KO.

[Fox McCloud]

But I think had Tszyu been fighting almost anyone else that night, he would've won. Tszyu didnt like pressure - Vince Phillips wore him down and stopped him. Hatton's swarming, mauling, head-in-the-chest pressure took its toll on Tszyu. Had he been facing a slick boxer or a counter-puncher or had Hatton adopted different tactics, I think we'd have seen a Tszyu KO.

Maybe... but if that is true, don't you think he would have taken a final fight against a slick boxer or counter puncher so he could finish his career with a win?

Usually fighters don't like to retire on a loss, and I can't imagine he would get out unless he was sure that he really didn't have much left for the sport.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Maybe... but if that is true, don't you think he would have taken a final fight against a slick boxer or counter puncher so he could finish his career with a win?

Usually fighters don't like to retire on a loss, and I can't imagine he would get out unless he was sure that he really didn't have much left for the sport.

Yeah, he wanted to. He only officially retired like 2 months ago lol. He clearly wanted only big money fights though and was talking about fighting Floyd.