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  • The Hammer
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    #51
    Originally posted by Flawless 2
    I can't take you serious. You love in Oz yet able to speak to Pavlik team members. Name the big names he fought??

    Kessler
    Crazy Kim
    Green
    Green is a good fighter, with tons of heart, who retired as a champion.

    You are an idiot and not a real boxing fan, if you don't respect someone like him.
    Last edited by The Hammer; 10-03-2008, 08:09 AM.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Flawless 2
      Mundine defence best in the SMW divison now??
      Stopped by Ottke
      Dropped by Crazy Kim

      This guy wants to be like RJJ and Mayweather Jr.

      Mundine “ If it makes money it makes sense”
      Just because he lowers his hands and acts like he is RJJ doesn’t mean ****. His defence isn’t that good. It average to say the least
      Your talking **** now, and you know thats not true.

      Your reading into things one sided. E.G Mundine went 12 with Kessler and Danny Green. Which pretty much tells you to shut up right there.

      Also you talk **** 24/7. You have no respect for what fighters go through.

      You continue to trash talk a guy who quit rugby league as the highest paid player, to form a professional as a boxer. His father lost to Carlos Monzon. He was laughed at when he announced turning pro. If you know how difficult it is for Aboriginals here in Australia, they are victimized by everyone, and if you knew what he has been through to get to where he is, you wouldn't carry on like this.

      In saying that, i think you need to analyze his performances against Soliman2, Danny Green, Echolls, and Kessler more closely.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Tunney
        Green is a good fighter, with tons of heart, who retired as a champion.

        You are an idiot and not a real boxing fan, if you don't respect someone like him.
        Sorry Tunney. I just can't take jackarses seriously who continue to ridicule a guy, who is highly talented. And clearly the 3rd best fighter at SMW.

        Go sit on your vibrator. Ease the anger.

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        • abadger
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          #54
          Originally posted by Melly-Mel
          it is not obvious to me. any man who beat bhop twice is not inferior to a man who's best win is against a 43 yr old bhop. is joe better than taylor, sure, alot? nah!
          I think he is. Taylor was in his twenties when he fought what, a 40 year old B-Hop? Calzaghe was 36. If you want to call B-Hop old against Calzaghe you have to call him old against Taylor, because he was. I don't think there was a huge difference in how good Hopkins was against Taylor and against Calzaghe, I thinks thats just spin, and besides, Hopkins looked markedly better against Tarver and Winky than he did against Taylor did he not?

          So look at Taylor's record. Wins title against an aging champion about 15 years his senior. Wins rematch. Two reasonable defences against Spinks and Ouma, a draw with an aging Wright then two losses to the first prime MW he faced. In none of these fights did Taylor actually look good. Compare that with Joe who has never lost a fight, beat the same fighter Taylor did, beat two prime SMW champions and faced hordes of opposition in the Spinks Ouma category, winning every single fight other than Reid and Hopkins clearly and impressively.

          Calzaghe is a much better fighter than Taylor.

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            #55
            Originally posted by abadger
            I think he is. Taylor was in his twenties when he fought what, a 40 year old B-Hop? Calzaghe was 36. If you want to call B-Hop old against Calzaghe you have to call him old against Taylor, because he was. I don't think there was a huge difference in how good Hopkins was against Taylor and against Calzaghe, I thinks thats just spin, and besides, Hopkins looked markedly better against Tarver and Winky than he did against Taylor did he not?

            So look at Taylor's record. Wins title against an aging champion about 15 years his senior. Wins rematch. Two reasonable defences against Spinks and Ouma, a draw with an aging Wright then two losses to the first prime MW he faced. In none of these fights did Taylor actually look good. Compare that with Joe who has never lost a fight, beat the same fighter Taylor did, beat two prime SMW champions and faced hordes of opposition in the Spinks Ouma category, winning every single fight other than Reid and Hopkins clearly and impressively.

            Calzaghe is a much better fighter than Taylor.

            I definetely agree with that.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Britney Spears
              Sorry Tunney. I just can't take jackarses seriously who continue to ridicule a guy, who is highly talented. And clearly the 3rd best fighter at SMW.

              Go sit on your vibrator. Ease the anger.
              12 rounds with Green?? A guy who started boxing for fun, is this meant to be a achievement?

              Name the world title he won.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Flawless 2
                12 rounds with Green?? A guy who started boxing for fun, is this meant to be a achievement?

                Name the world title he won.
                Danny Green retired as WBA light heavyweight champion.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by abadger
                  I think he is. Taylor was in his twenties when he fought what, a 40 year old B-Hop? Calzaghe was 36. If you want to call B-Hop old against Calzaghe you have to call him old against Taylor, because he was. I don't think there was a huge difference in how good Hopkins was against Taylor and against Calzaghe, I thinks thats just spin, and besides, Hopkins looked markedly better against Tarver and Winky than he did against Taylor did he not?

                  So look at Taylor's record. Wins title against an aging champion about 15 years his senior. Wins rematch. Two reasonable defences against Spinks and Ouma, a draw with an aging Wright then two losses to the first prime MW he faced. In none of these fights did Taylor actually look good. Compare that with Joe who has never lost a fight, beat the same fighter Taylor did, beat two prime SMW champions and faced hordes of opposition in the Spinks Ouma category, winning every single fight other than Reid and Hopkins clearly and impressively.

                  Calzaghe is a much better fighter than Taylor.
                  back in the day much better yes, now..not so much imo. if he was still so much better than taylor he would have beaten bhop much more convincingly. and yes fyi almost 4 years make a big difference from 39 to 43. how can it not?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Flawless 2
                    12 rounds with Green?? A guy who started boxing for fun, is this meant to be a achievement?

                    Name the world title he won.
                    Danny Green was the WBA LHW world champion.

                    Mundine has beaten Echolls rated #1 by WBA. Beaten Green rated #5 by Ring Magazine. Soliman 2, stopped him, yet Winky barely beat him the year before.

                    One thing is clear flawless, you haven't seen any videos of the fights.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      I think he is. Taylor was in his twenties when he fought what, a 40 year old B-Hop? Calzaghe was 36. If you want to call B-Hop old against Calzaghe you have to call him old against Taylor, because he was. I don't think there was a huge difference in how good Hopkins was against Taylor and against Calzaghe, I thinks thats just spin, and besides, Hopkins looked markedly better against Tarver and Winky than he did against Taylor did he not?

                      Calzaghe is a much better fighter than Taylor.
                      plz explain the difference in Hopkins that fought Taylor and Calzaghe and how its not huge. And how he looked better against Winky then against Taylor.

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