Did Roy Jones Jr Duck Nigel Benn?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

"Benn was more dangerous than Ruiz. Ruiz was a Yank" - Dirk Diggler Logic everyone.

Kill yourself.

Benn is a more dangerous figher pound for pound than......John Ruiz. Ruiz is ****ing ****e

I thought Ruiz was Mexican......

[bsrizpac]

Benn is a more dangerous figher pound for pound than......John Ruiz. Ruiz is ****ing ****e

I thought Ruiz was Mexican......

That's because you are a biased ignorant piece of ****. You've said **** like Oscar is American...since when? Proving that once again you don't know ****.

Ruiz...a Mexican. ****ing *******. Try Puerto Rican by heritage, American by birth.

Why throw pound for pound in there? What does that mean? Nothing. Pacman is pound for pound more dangerous than both. Maybe Roy should fight him

Tool.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

That's because you are a biased ignorant piece of ****. You've said **** like Oscar is American...since when? Proving that once again you don't know ****.

Ruiz...a Mexican. ****ing *******. Try Puerto Rican by heritage, American by birth.

Why throw pound for pound in there? What does that mean? Nothing. Pacman is pound for pound more dangerous than both. Maybe Roy should fight him

Tool.

Im biased because I thought Ruiz was Mexican. Riiiiiight. How is that? My point was really that I couldnt care less where hes from. Hes still ****e. Yet you tried to claim I thought he was crap cos hes a Yank.

Your story doesnt quite add up.

Throw pound-for-pound in there? Well what I said was "in their respective weight classes, Benn was more dangerous than Ruiz". Thats quite a simple statement to comprehend. Clearly not for you.

Pacman? I dont believe he's fought at any of the weights Roy has competeted at so...........no, but well done for trying.

At least you're now admitting that people can be more dangerous than the Mighty John Ruiz.

[bsrizpac]

Im biased because I thought Ruiz was Mexican. Riiiiiight. How is that? My point was really that I couldnt care less where hes from. Hes still ****e. Yet you tried to claim I thought he was crap cos hes a Yank.

Your story doesnt quite add up.

Throw pound-for-pound in there? Well what I said was "in their respective weight classes, Benn was more dangerous than Ruiz". Thats quite a simple statement to comprehend. Clearly not for you.

Pacman? I dont believe he's fought at any of the weights Roy has competeted at so...........no, but well done for trying.

At least you're now admitting that people can be more dangerous than the Mighty John Ruiz.

Nothing "mighty" about him. No one was saying that slow ****. Just that he is a heavyweight and Benn is a midget. They have weight classes for a reason tard.

Of course if Ruiz was from the UK you wouldn't say any of this. You'd say Jones ducked him before he fought him.

[Chase8400]

Um........being lineal champ means you're the man who beat the man who beat the man. You dont become lineal champ by beating other beltholders.

If I pick Jones over him then why argue? I picked Cotto over Margarito. So, I guess they shouldn't have fought? Picks aren't 100% certainties. Roy Jones' career is a crime sheet of opinions, hypotheticals and "woulda shoulda couldas". Which is a shame considering his undoubted talent.

I dont care about how many people side with me. This isnt a playground.

So, when did DM hold the ring belt? I'll answer, NEVER. He who holds that belt, which Jones did, is the champ. Simple as that. DM was NEVER willing to come over here and fight. It was NEVER, EVER said that he would. I don't even come close to ****ing around about Rjj history. You better try that with somebody else.
> It does matters who you pick because Dariusz is now retired and the fight can never come off. Your too ignorant to even see the difference between Cotto-Margarito and a DM-Rjj fight, so why should I even waste my time with this.
> If this is not a playground to you , then shut the **** up and realize when you are overmatched.

-This concludes your FREE insider boxing lesson.

[Chase8400]

IMDAZED didnt answer anything. He didnt even give an opinion on whether Hopkins was the best Middleweight at the time. Im still waiting for you to tell me why a guy who hadnt won a title or even had a significant fight was the best Middleweight in the world.

I dont understand why we're talking about Calzaghe now. If Jones beats Calzaghe, what am I supposed to admit Im wrong about apart from my pick?

I dont see how the fight with Calzaghe has any baring on what we're discussing here.

This is simple. Calzaghe is an example of a better UK/European fighter than anyone who would have or should have fought Jones in his prime. Calzaghe is comin over here to fight Roy, right. Roy is past his prime at this point. Calzaghe is probably a hair past his as well. Do you think that Jones would fight Joe "****ing" Calzaghe while past his prime, but duck Nigel Benn, Eubank or Collins while in his prime? ............................Please tell me you see a point. Tell me you have the brain power to relate this topic to what is currently happening in boxing. I really feel like we are speaking on different levels now. If you respond to this, please have something even remotely intellegent to say. Otherwise, I promise I will not respond any longer. This is beyond ridiculous, considering where this came from and that you never even had a point to argue on this matter, other than your opinion.

[Chase8400]

Bernard may not have been the best MW when he fought Roy but I still don't think Jones gets anywhere near the credit he deserves for that win. People just disregard it and say Hopkins was "green". Whilst BHop may not have been the 100% finished article when he fought Roy he didn't lose a fight for over a decade after that one and put together a record run of MW title defences. Hardly bum material. To add to that Roy cruised to the win with a badly damaged hand.

Thanks very much. I'm glad somebody acually understands my Jones-Hopkins points. There was no way to determine when B-hop hit his prime, but we do know that when he fought Jones, he had more fights and was a little older. To me that means that Jones was the green one of the two in terms of PRO fights. Jones should get mad props considering that B-hop was way more agressive at that time and did'nt lose for like ten years after that boxing lesson. Crazy to me how some guys on here just choose to overlook these obvious circumstances.

[IMDAZED]

Thanks very much. I'm glad somebody acually understands my Jones-Hopkins points. There was no way to determine when B-hop hit his prime, but we do know that when he fought Jones, he had more fights and was a little older. To me that means that Jones was the green one of the two in terms of PRO fights. Jones should get mad props considering that B-hop was way more agressive at that time and did'nt lose for like ten years after that boxing lesson. Crazy to me how some guys on here just choose to overlook these obvious circumstances.

Oh they get it. They just don't want to. I think by now we realize - we being everyone - who the clowns are that would rather "pretend" they're right than admit they're wrong. That's just life, especially on message boards.

But anyway, to add on to your point, Hopkins was actually the #1 ranked contender and Jones #2. And they both succeeded in making each other look pretty average, inaccurate and inept. Not surprisingly, I suspect a rematch (even today) would look the exact same.

[Chase8400]

No you said the fight was at middle. We all saw.

How many posts later and you're still ******? Broken clocks...

Exactly my point with this guy, he is still ****** after this boxing schooling i have given him. Go figure. Like beating the dead horse, for real.

[Chase8400]

Oh they get it. They just don't want to. I think by now we realize - we being everyone - who the clowns are that would rather "pretend" they're right than admit they're wrong. That's just life, especially on message boards.

But anyway, to add on to your point, Hopkins was actually the #1 ranked contender and Jones #2. And they both succeeded in making each other look pretty average, inaccurate and inept. Not surprisingly, I suspect a rematch (even today) would look the exact sam.

I agree, somewhat. I saw the fight again not too long ago and besides Jones starting and finishing each exchange Hopkins did look very good defensively. I should have not made it seem like it was a blowout. In my opinion though, Jones won very convincingly and Hopkins has even admitted that he was the only fighter to really beat him. In retrospect, either man could have ruled the division as long as they chose to. Much like Hopkins chose to. Jones was growing into a man more rapidly and wanted to make his mark in the higher weights, respectfully. Can you believe that tool saying that Jones was not the real champ because he did'nt beat Daruisz M? What a F'n joke. I almost think he is partially retarted sometimes. I feel bad about schooling him , kinda.

.........................Naw, he's a tool. I feel okay with it.