Joan Guzman Set To Fight Nate Campbell For Free?

[NeXt In Line]

it doesn't prove he's a great fighter, just that he's willing to do the right thing and try and make up for his mistake.

Yeah that's more of what I was trying to get at. He feels like a lot of peopel got cheated out of money and a great fight. Hopefully it can be for the titles and he cam come through.

[El Dominicano]

Will this be a title fight? Please let it be

[JAB5239]

He doesn't have to deal with Guzman as a mandatory, but Campbell hasn't gotten paid. His co-promoter Terry Trekas posts on here, so he can correct me if I'm wrong.

And it is highly unlikely that he would sign to fight Guzman again before getting a settlement from the last fight that never came off.

[Zocalo]

so because they made that much on that fight it means they will make the same if they fight each other? Campbell has three belts which will sell more you ****ing idiot, go suck a ****ing donkey ****.


whos we? your the ****ing idiot... Campbell is ducking JMM, its a fact.

My goodness are you this obtuse?

Anyways, do me a favor and go find a donkey. There aren't any where I live and you go suck on it's fucking ****.

10X....lol... moron...

[*Dinamita]

Campbell is ducking Marquez..

kthxs

[Scott9945]

And it is highly unlikely that he would sign to fight Guzman again before getting a settlement from the last fight that never came off.

At the very least he'd want most of his money up front. I don't see this fight happening under any circumstances.

[King Koopa]

Hell naw, a free fight and King options on his next three...

Who is Guzman with now?

[OnePunch]

He doesn't have to deal with Guzman as a mandatory, but Campbell hasn't gotten paid. His co-promoter Terry Trekas posts on here, so he can correct me if I'm wrong.

Here's the deal. Guzman's promoter and manager made somewhat of an offer to settle our pending lawsuit from the Sept 13 nonsense. Essentially, they agreed to forfeit Guzman's purse (estimated around $200-300k) if we agreed to another fight. I personally rejected the offer myself for a number of reasons.

1. Nate's damages are $400k, not $200-300k (Nate received $0 for the fight)
2. There will be no discussion of a new fight, until settlement is complete from the previous breached contract.
3. There are no network dates available that would generate enough money to meet the settlement amount.
4. The WBO is dropping Guzman completely out of the rankings at 135, so if Nate fought him he would be stripped of the WBO title.
5. It is almost certain that even if tv dates were available, Showtime or HBO would not take another chance on Guzman at this point.
6. Nate has an IBF mandatory due next, and can only get an exception to fight someone else ranked in the IBF top 15, which Guzman is not, so fighting him would cause Nate to be stripped of the IBF title.
7. Guzman has a pending suspension issue to deal with in Miss., which hasnt yet been resolved.
8. His complete lack of professionalism, pulling out literally 2 hours before the fight should not be rewarded with an immediate unified title fight.

If anyone needs more reasons, I can keep going.......


Edit: And from Guzman's people's standpoint, this deal makes all the sense in the world. Think about what it will cost them in dollars and in time to have Guzman fight off-tv, and move him back up in the rankings to position for another title shot. Probably a half million or better, and 12-18 months at least. Of course it makes sense for them to offer us this deal. It's a no-brainer for them. But alas, I in fact do have a brain, so its a no-deal on our end.

[Silencers]

Here's the deal. Guzman's promoter and manager made somewhat of an offer to settle our pending lawsuit from the Sept 13 nonsense. Essentially, they agreed to forfeit Guzman's purse (estimated around $200-300k) if we agreed to another fight. I personally rejected the offer myself for a number of reasons.

1. Nate's damages are $400k, not $200-300k (Nate received $0 for the fight)
2. There will be no discussion of a new fight, until settlement is complete from the previous breached contract.
3. There are no network dates available that would generate enough money to meet the settlement amount.
4. The WBO is dropping Guzman completely out of the rankings at 135, so if Nate fought him he would be stripped of the WBO title.
5. It is almost certain that even if tv dates were available, Showtime or HBO would not take another chance on Guzman at this point.
6. Nate has an IBF mandatory due next, and can only get an exception to fight someone else ranked in the IBF top 15, which Guzman is not, so fighting him would cause Nate to be stripped of the IBF title.
7. Guzman has a pending suspension issue to deal with in Miss., which hasnt yet been resolved.
8. His complete lack of professionalism, pulling out literally 2 hours before the fight should not be rewarded with an immediate unified title fight.

If anyone needs more reasons, I can keep going.......

I take back what I said, it's not a good deal for Campbell.

[Scott9945]

Here's the deal. Guzman's promoter and manager made somewhat of an offer to settle our pending lawsuit from the Sept 13 nonsense. Essentially, they agreed to forfeit Guzman's purse (estimated around $200-300k) if we agreed to another fight. I personally rejected the offer myself for a number of reasons.

1. Nate's damages are $400k, not $200-300k (Nate received $0 for the fight)
2. There will be no discussion of a new fight, until settlement is complete from the previous breached contract.
3. There are no network dates available that would generate enough money to meet the settlement amount.
4. The WBO is dropping Guzman completely out of the rankings at 135, so if Nate fought him he would be stripped of the WBO title.
5. It is almost certain that even if tv dates were available, Showtime or HBO would not take another chance on Guzman at this point.
6. Nate has an IBF mandatory due next, and can only get an exception to fight someone else ranked in the IBF top 15, which Guzman is not, so fighting him would cause Nate to be stripped of the IBF title.
7. Guzman has a pending suspension issue to deal with in Miss., which hasnt yet been resolved.
8. His complete lack of professionalism, pulling out literally 2 hours before the fight should not be rewarded with an immediate unified title fight.

If anyone needs more reasons, I can keep going.......


Edit: And from Guzman's people's standpoint, this deal makes all the sense in the world. This about what it will cost them in dollars and in time to have Guzman fight off-tv, and move him back up in the rankings to position for another title shot. Probably a half million or better, and 12-18 months at least. Of course it makes sense for them to offer us this deal. It's a no-brainer for them. But alas, I in fact do have a brain, so its a no-deal on our end.

Thanks Terry. It's nice to have an inside source lay out the facts. Nate was truly an innocent victim here and if nothing else I hope that he at least gets a nice payday.