both arthur abraham and felix sturm are paper champs

[The_Italian]

Look I love Pavlik and Taylor, but Im not quick to write off contenders before they have a chance to prove themselves. If this was the case Pavlik should not have been given a chance aginst Taylor. As for AAs record, honestly how different is it from Pavliks before Pavlik faught Taylor.

im definately NOT writing AA off...but at this time i am when posters seem to think he's the best in that division...

he still has some more fights to make before hand...

like taylor...

and such...

before getting to pavlik.

[VanesBoxing]

im definately NOT writing AA off...but at this time i am when posters seem to think he's the best in that division...

he still has some more fights to make before hand...

like taylor...

and such...

before getting to pavlik.

Abraham deserves to fight THE BEST in the division...


bring on ABRAHAM -vs- PAVLIK

easy FOTY for 2009!

[Finn73]

im definately NOT writing AA off...but at this time i am when posters seem to think he's the best in that division...

he still has some more fights to make before hand...

like taylor...

and such...

before getting to pavlik.

Taylor? Taylor has moved up to super-middleweight. There's only Pavlik left in the middleweight. The fight between the 2 is the final showdown. Both will beat any other fighter in the division.

[roundingace]

LOL...............LMAO "box circles" ya because Pavlik is a great boxer, whoa his boxing skills are second to none........LMAO!

Yes, he will and you know it, which is why you have nothing to say other than "LMAO." AA is a turtle shell counter puncher who has good power WHEN he uses it. With Pav's workrate, he will HAVE to open up and exchange and when he does, goodnight.

[VanesBoxing]

lets watch AA take care of Marquez first this Saturday.. then talk Pavlik

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[roundingace]

lets watch AA take care of Marquez first this Saturday.. then talk Pavlik

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Agreed. They both have fights in front of them to deal with. Should they both win, and I don't really see either of them losing, I can't WAIT for those two to face off! I think that's both fighters biggest fights in 09 at least in terms of it's meaning.

[Sithis]

and since then hes?????????????

Felix got horribly robbed. never fought in US since. can you blame him? he isnt a knockout fighter. he wins clear decision by putting on boxing clinics. his style is made for getting robbed in the US.

[Slotff]

Strum lost to Oscar IMO. AA beat win is over Edison M and took him 2 fights to beat him and the first one got his jaw broken. Pavlik first shot against Edison M Ko his ass out

You really think Sturm lost to Oscar? Oscar is my ALL TIME favourite, and even giving him every close round I can't see it any better than a draw... and THATS dubious. Close fight, no doubt, I thought Oscar hurt Sturm once, but NO way he won for me.

115-113 or 116-112 for Sturm. A draw wouldn't have been the WORST decision of all time I suppose.