both arthur abraham and felix sturm are paper champs

**larryx** · 09-30-2008, 05:20 PM

take away the smoke and the mirrors and you have the truth

**ACHlLLES** · 09-30-2008, 05:37 PM

Felix Sturm would still get ko'd by Abraham. Does Sturm even talk about Abraham at all or does he completely avoid conversation about him?

**VanesBoxing** · 09-30-2008, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by larryx

lets be real here i saw a discussion about the 2 having padded records..take a second a think neither 1 fought a champion to win their respective belts.the only reason they are champs are because of corrupt santioning bodies that stripped jermain taylor because he rematched b-hop!!!they both won vacated belts that were rightfully jt's//in my opinion theirs only 1`middleweight champ and his name is kelly pavlik!!!!!!!!!!! authur is the #1 contender followed by felix sturm

you make alot of sense bro and I agree...

with that said...
King Arthur Abraham is still IBF Middleweight World Champion still and more than one guy to date has had a chance to take that from him, none of them have done so.

In my book, Pavlik and Abraham are equal champs and thats what makes this fight even more enticing.

**larryx** · 09-30-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by VanesBoxing

you make alot of sense bro and I agree...

with that said...
King Arthur Abraham is still IBF Middleweight World Champion still and more than one guy to date has had a chance to take that from him, none of them have done so.

In my book, Pavlik and Abraham are equal champs and thats what makes this fight even more enticing.

oh i like AA he is the #1 contender and i give him a good chance in a fight with pavlik..but felix sturm is garbage

**larryx** · 09-30-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by MacChamp

Felix Sturm would still get ko'd by Abraham. Does Sturm even talk about Abraham at all or does he completely avoid conversation about him?

champ who is the chick with the tasty ass

**MANGLER** · 09-30-2008, 06:10 PM

Yep. By the end of Taylor's reign I noticed he was no longer bein announced as the undisputed MW champ, even tho he was in the Winky fight, by which he'd already been stripped of 2 belts. But the unified lineage from B-Hop never ended. AA ain't a **** fighter, but his belt is a false one just like Sturm's.

**larryx** · 09-30-2008, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by mangler

Yep. By the end of Taylor's reign I noticed he was no longer bein announced as the undisputed MW champ, even tho he was in the Winky fight, by which he'd already been stripped of 2 belts. But the unified lineage from B-Hop never ended. AA ain't a **** fighter, but his belt is a false one just like Sturm's.

you hit it right on the head!!! AA is a good fighter..felix sturm=protected bum

**Sithis** · 09-30-2008, 07:09 PM

Sturm is extremely skilled. kinda boring, but an excellent boxer.

he made de la hoya look like ****.

**larryx** · 09-30-2008, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Sithis

Sturm is extremely skilled. kinda boring, but an excellent boxer.

he made de la hoya look like ****.

and since then hes?????????????

both arthur abraham and felix sturm are paper champs