talyors resume is already 10 times better than joes

[Clegg]

Look at the results now

It doesn't really prove anything. You win a debate with facts, logic and a convincing argument, not because 30 people on a website agree with you. Besides, abadger didn't even vote, which shows that there are probably several that hold an opinion but haven't bothered registering it.

[Kris Silver]

Let me make it clear, I believe Taylor has the better resume because of the level of opposition he has faced not just the fact that he is no longer undefeated. You guys say resume and the level of opposition is not related which makes no sense. If a guys beats all bums, that means his resume is better? Even if it lacks quality?

Even taking Hopkins and Kessler, they were both the absolute top guys Calzaghe could have faced in those divisions. He beat them both, and most think Kessler would beat Taylor and Hopkins. Reid, Lacy, Eubank, Bika are clearly not bums. You can under rate them if you wish, but not that much to be credible. There were genuine top top 10 contendors that for the most part, were clearly beaten.

[BrooklynBomber]

What, results?
Majority of this sites are ******s, fanboys and people who started watching boxing a year ago because they heard it was cool in a rap video.

Not exactly the people whose opinion counts for anything.

[krispy kreme]

hmm...guess Joe Mesi is an all time great then. Good logic.

Exactly that guy spit out more bums that a Vegas **********.

[Pugilistic™]

No you guys put too much emphasis on that zero.

No we are just comparing the "Wins" that each fighter has had against top fighters. Calzaghe has more wins over better fighters.

[Clegg]

I didn't mean Calzaghe. I just think if anything his resume lacks quality as oppose to Taylor.

Is this including Pavlik though?

If we're just talking about wins, I think Kessler at 168 is better than Ouma or Spinks at 160.

The Hopkins wins are debateable in both cases, I can understand both arguments on that one.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

You are not comparing Ali to Wright, right?

No way sir just stating that with a jab you can be a great fighter sir. Jab and D are two good tool to have better then say all O and chin.......Ali had a Jab, lighting speed, Great movement, punches from all angles, Iron chin, heart He had it all and his power was very underated. he never really loaded up on punches but he hit decent crisp clean punches that were on target.....Wright is a great fighter but Ali is on a whole nother echolon..........Lefty

[them_apples]

Taylors is much better, zaghes best win is a 43 year old.

Taylor beat a much better version of Hopkins, Hopkins was active and fought much better. It was in a lower weight class to.

Calzaghe didn't even beat Hopkins for one..he looked aweful, Hopkins hardly threw anything also.

Calzaghe strikes me as the type of guy with the most padded record ever.

[abadger]

Some of you are simply incredible. Here, I will repeat myself:

Those trying to make the case that Taylor has the better resume, or even say it is comparable are fooling themselves. There is a difference between what you want to be the case and actually is.

There is a degree of comparison between the quality of fighters the two boxers fought in their biggest fights:

Taylor: Hopkins, Pavlik, Wright, Spinks, Ouma

Calzaghe: Hopkins, Kessler, Eubank, Reid, Mitchell

It is debateable as to who has the better list of fighters, I would say Calzaghe, a Taylor fan would say Taylor.

The problem for the Taylor fan is that their point is moot, Calzaghe won all of his and Taylor lost twice and drew once. Based on these fights alone, Calzaghe's resume is better than Taylor's.

Then there are some more things to consider: In addition to these fighters Joe Calzaghe also fought Lacy, Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, Omar Sheika, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem. The names I list here are not greats of boxing by any means, but are meaningful wins over meaningful opponents, they all add up on Calzaghe's resume as succesful title defences. Taylor's is sadly lacking in these, beyond Spinks and Ouma who we have already accounted for.

Then, finally you have to account for the two resumes as a whole. Calzaghe's represents an undefeated run as a pro over 15 years, 21 title defences and 10 years as champion, and a linear title in another weight division, all without a single slip up or off-night, which could have happened at any time. Compare this with Taylor: great title win over B-Hop, proved it in the rematch, two solid defences, a draw, then a pair of losses to the first prime fighter he faced as champion. Calzaghe comes out on top again.

As many have said already, Jermain Taylor's resume is not even close to being as good as Calzaghe's.

[Clegg]

Poll results like this give me a level of sympathy for ******* dictators that I previously thought impossible.

Imagine if they'd had people like Larryx, them apples and Flawless around in Ancient Greece. The case for democracy would be damaged irrevocably.