talyors resume is already 10 times better than joes
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For those not willing to read the previous 700 pages, here is a re-cap:
*You can tell if a fighter is past his prime or not by looking at his hairstyle
*Robin 'no one cares about me, other than a few gay men' Reid was a British hypejob
*Taylor would beat Calzaghe because JC gave up his SMW belts in order to avoid a fight with Pavlik
*Thomas Hearns was a nobody
*If Larryx, boxing scholar, has not heard of someone, then they can't have been a good fighter
*Pavlik would KO everyone who has ever lived(apart from maybe Paul Williams?)
*If you start a poll with a clear, unambiguous title, it's ok to change what you're asking in post #56
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For those not willing to read the previous 700 pages, here is a re-cap:
*You can tell if a fighter is past his prime or not by looking at his hairstyle
*Robin 'no one cares about me, other than a few gay men' Reid was a British hypejob
*Taylor would beat Calzaghe because JC gave up his SMW belts in order to avoid a fight with Pavlik
*Thomas Hearns was a nobody
*If Larryx, boxing scholar, has not heard of someone, then they can't have been a good fighter
*Pavlik would KO everyone who has ever lived(apart from maybe Paul Williams?)
*If you start a poll with a clear, unambiguous title, it's ok to change what you're asking in post #56
*2+2=5
NSB at its bestComment
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For those not willing to read the previous 700 pages, here is a re-cap:
*You can tell if a fighter is past his prime or not by looking at his hairstyle
*Robin 'no one cares about me, other than a few gay men' Reid was a British hypejob
*Taylor would beat Calzaghe because JC gave up his SMW belts in order to avoid a fight with Pavlik
*Thomas Hearns was a nobody
*If Larryx, boxing scholar, has not heard of someone, then they can't have been a good fighter
*Pavlik would KO everyone who has ever lived(apart from maybe Paul Williams?)
*If you start a poll with a clear, unambiguous title, it's ok to change what you're asking in post #56
*2+2=5Comment
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Hopkins
Eubank=Old On His Way out
Reid=Who?
Lacy=Can't Argue, Het gor ****ed up
Jones Jr.=fight hasnt happend, u can't predict the future buddyComment
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Calzaghe's Resume
Beat Kessler great fight!
Beat Hopkins
Beat Eubank
Beat Reid
Beat Lacy destroyed him!
He hasn't fought Jones Jr. yet
Taylor's Resume
Beat Hopkins twice close fights
2 great fights with Pavlik (went out on his shield)
Beat Spinks
Beat Ouma
He hasn't fought Lacy yet
Draw with Winky great fight!
Beat Raul Marquez (41-3) fighting Abraham 10/4/08
Beat William Joppy (39-5) last fight Lucian Bute L TKO 10
Taylor is no Super Joe at this point in his career. I mean he only lost 2 action packed fights in a row against one of the best P4P in the world. He fought to a draw with Winky Wright who beat Mosely and Trinidad and lost to Hopkins. He beat Hopkins two times both by close decision as Joe did a few months ago. So to compare the two would be ludacris right????? Joe has a 0 in the loss column and carefully chose his opponents wiselt and fought the ones he did at the right time to conserve that o. he is a great fighter and Champion and deserves credit but he is often too hyped up by Brits...,....LeftyComment
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Those trying to make the case that Taylor has the better resume, or even say it is comparable are fooling themselves. There is a difference between what you want to be the case and actually is.
There is a degree of comparison between the quality of fighters the two boxers fought in their biggest fights:
Taylor: Hopkins, Pavlik, Wright, Spinks, Ouma
Calzaghe: Hopkins, Kessler, Eubank, Reid, Mitchell
It is debateable as to who has the better list of fighters, I would say Calzaghe, a Taylor fan would say Taylor.
The problem for the Taylor fan is that their point is moot, Calzaghe won all of his and Taylor lost twice and drew once. Based on these fights alone, Calzaghe's resume is better than Taylor's.
Then there are some more things to consider: In addition to these fighters Joe Calzaghe also fought Lacy, Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, Omar Sheika, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem. The names I list here are not greats of boxing by any means, but are meaningful wins over meaningful opponents, they all add up on Calzaghe's resume as succesful title defences. Taylor's is sadly lacking in these, beyond Spinks and Ouma who we have already accounted for.
Then, finally you have to account for the two resumes as a whole. Calzaghe's represents an undefeated run as a pro over 15 years, 21 title defences and 10 years as champion, and a linear title in another weight division, all without a single slip up or off-night, which could have happened at any time. Compare this with Taylor: great title win over B-Hop, proved it in the rematch, two solid defences, a draw, then a pair of losses to the first prime fighter he faced as champion. Calzaghe comes out on top again.
As many have said already, Jermain Taylor's resume is not even close to being as good as Calzaghe's.Comment
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Those trying to make the case that Taylor has the better resume, or even say it is comparable are fooling themselves. There is a difference between what you want to be the case and actually is.
There is a degree of comparison between the quality of fighters the two boxers fought in their biggest fights:
Taylor: Hopkins, Pavlik, Wright, Spinks, Ouma
Calzaghe: Hopkins, Kessler, Eubank, Reid, Mitchell
It is debateable as to who has the better list of fighters, I would say Calzaghe, a Taylor fan would say Taylor.
The problem for the Taylor fan is that their point is moot, Calzaghe won all of his and Taylor lost twice and drew once. Based on these fights alone, Calzaghe's resume is better than Taylor's.
Then there are some more things to consider: In addition to these fighters Joe Calzaghe also fought Lacy, Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, Omar Sheika, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem. The names I list here are not greats of boxing by any means, but are meaningful wins over meaningful opponents, they all add up on Calzaghe's resume as succesful title defences. Taylor's is sadly lacking in these, beyond Spinks and Ouma who we have already accounted for.
Then, finally you have to account for the two resumes as a whole. Calzaghe's represents an undefeated run as a pro over 15 years, 21 title defences and 10 years as champion, and a linear title in another weight division, all without a single slip up or off-night, which could have happened at any time. Compare this with Taylor: great title win over B-Hop, proved it in the rematch, two solid defences, a draw, then a pair of losses to the first prime fighter he faced as champion. Calzaghe comes out on top again.
As many have said already, Jermain Taylor's resume is not even close to being as good as Calzaghe's.Comment
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