talyors resume is already 10 times better than joes

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #141
    Originally posted by Flawless 2
    The fact the Taylor is winning this poll speaks Volumes
    Yes it does.

    About the level of ******ity that currently rids NSB with you as the Ring Leader.

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    • Clegg
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      #142
      For those not willing to read the previous 700 pages, here is a re-cap:

      *You can tell if a fighter is past his prime or not by looking at his hairstyle

      *Robin 'no one cares about me, other than a few gay men' Reid was a British hypejob

      *Taylor would beat Calzaghe because JC gave up his SMW belts in order to avoid a fight with Pavlik

      *Thomas Hearns was a nobody

      *If Larryx, boxing scholar, has not heard of someone, then they can't have been a good fighter

      *Pavlik would KO everyone who has ever lived(apart from maybe Paul Williams?)

      *If you start a poll with a clear, unambiguous title, it's ok to change what you're asking in post #56

      *2+2=5

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      • TheManchine
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        #143
        Originally posted by Clegg
        For those not willing to read the previous 700 pages, here is a re-cap:

        *You can tell if a fighter is past his prime or not by looking at his hairstyle

        *Robin 'no one cares about me, other than a few gay men' Reid was a British hypejob

        *Taylor would beat Calzaghe because JC gave up his SMW belts in order to avoid a fight with Pavlik

        *Thomas Hearns was a nobody

        *If Larryx, boxing scholar, has not heard of someone, then they can't have been a good fighter

        *Pavlik would KO everyone who has ever lived(apart from maybe Paul Williams?)

        *If you start a poll with a clear, unambiguous title, it's ok to change what you're asking in post #56

        *2+2=5


        NSB at its best

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        • Silencers
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          #144
          Originally posted by Clegg
          For those not willing to read the previous 700 pages, here is a re-cap:

          *You can tell if a fighter is past his prime or not by looking at his hairstyle

          *Robin 'no one cares about me, other than a few gay men' Reid was a British hypejob

          *Taylor would beat Calzaghe because JC gave up his SMW belts in order to avoid a fight with Pavlik

          *Thomas Hearns was a nobody

          *If Larryx, boxing scholar, has not heard of someone, then they can't have been a good fighter

          *Pavlik would KO everyone who has ever lived(apart from maybe Paul Williams?)

          *If you start a poll with a clear, unambiguous title, it's ok to change what you're asking in post #56

          *2+2=5

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          • The Hammer
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            #145
            Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
            Calzaghe's wins:

            Kessler
            Hopkins
            Eubank
            Reid
            Lacy
            Jones Jr.


            Taylor's wins:

            Hopkins twice
            Spinks
            Ouma
            Lacy


            Calzaghe's resume >>>>> Taylor's resume
            What he said.

            The threadstarter doesn't much anything about boxing.

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            • SkilledB
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              #146
              Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
              Calzaghe's wins:

              Kessler
              Hopkins
              Eubank
              Reid
              Lacy
              Jones Jr.


              Taylor's wins:

              Hopkins twice
              Spinks
              Ouma
              Lacy


              Calzaghe's resume >>>>> Taylor's resume
              Kessler
              Hopkins
              Eubank=Old On His Way out
              Reid=Who?
              Lacy=Can't Argue, Het gor ****ed up
              Jones Jr.=fight hasnt happend, u can't predict the future buddy

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              • LEFTYGUNZZ
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                #147
                Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
                Calzaghe's wins:

                Kessler
                Hopkins
                Eubank
                Reid
                Lacy
                Jones Jr.


                Taylor's wins:

                Hopkins twice
                Spinks
                Ouma
                Lacy
                Raul Marquez

                Calzaghe's resume >>>>> Taylor's resume
                He has to beat Jones before you can add him to the resume my man.....You can add a good fight with Winky to Taylor's resume they already fought.and 2 fights that were awesome to watch with Pavlik..I wouldn't say Taylor's resume is 10 times better but I would say they are very comparable.....I posted this in another thread. I would say they are defintely comparable......Left

                Calzaghe's Resume

                Beat Kessler great fight!
                Beat Hopkins
                Beat Eubank
                Beat Reid
                Beat Lacy destroyed him!
                He hasn't fought Jones Jr. yet


                Taylor's Resume

                Beat Hopkins twice close fights
                2 great fights with Pavlik (went out on his shield)
                Beat Spinks
                Beat Ouma
                He hasn't fought Lacy yet
                Draw with Winky great fight!
                Beat Raul Marquez (41-3) fighting Abraham 10/4/08
                Beat William Joppy (39-5) last fight Lucian Bute L TKO 10


                Taylor is no Super Joe at this point in his career. I mean he only lost 2 action packed fights in a row against one of the best P4P in the world. He fought to a draw with Winky Wright who beat Mosely and Trinidad and lost to Hopkins. He beat Hopkins two times both by close decision as Joe did a few months ago. So to compare the two would be ludacris right????? Joe has a 0 in the loss column and carefully chose his opponents wiselt and fought the ones he did at the right time to conserve that o. he is a great fighter and Champion and deserves credit but he is often too hyped up by Brits...,....Lefty

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                • abadger
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                  #148
                  Those trying to make the case that Taylor has the better resume, or even say it is comparable are fooling themselves. There is a difference between what you want to be the case and actually is.

                  There is a degree of comparison between the quality of fighters the two boxers fought in their biggest fights:

                  Taylor: Hopkins, Pavlik, Wright, Spinks, Ouma

                  Calzaghe: Hopkins, Kessler, Eubank, Reid, Mitchell

                  It is debateable as to who has the better list of fighters, I would say Calzaghe, a Taylor fan would say Taylor.

                  The problem for the Taylor fan is that their point is moot, Calzaghe won all of his and Taylor lost twice and drew once. Based on these fights alone, Calzaghe's resume is better than Taylor's.

                  Then there are some more things to consider: In addition to these fighters Joe Calzaghe also fought Lacy, Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, Omar Sheika, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem. The names I list here are not greats of boxing by any means, but are meaningful wins over meaningful opponents, they all add up on Calzaghe's resume as succesful title defences. Taylor's is sadly lacking in these, beyond Spinks and Ouma who we have already accounted for.

                  Then, finally you have to account for the two resumes as a whole. Calzaghe's represents an undefeated run as a pro over 15 years, 21 title defences and 10 years as champion, and a linear title in another weight division, all without a single slip up or off-night, which could have happened at any time. Compare this with Taylor: great title win over B-Hop, proved it in the rematch, two solid defences, a draw, then a pair of losses to the first prime fighter he faced as champion. Calzaghe comes out on top again.

                  As many have said already, Jermain Taylor's resume is not even close to being as good as Calzaghe's.

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                  • bsrizpac
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by larryx
                    i saw a disccusion in another thread where dirk digger was comparing joe to taylor..if taylor hand picked his opponents like joe he wouldve probally gotten 21 defences too.his resume is 10 times better than joes and he's still in his prime
                    Exaggerate much?

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                    • Pugilistic™
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      Those trying to make the case that Taylor has the better resume, or even say it is comparable are fooling themselves. There is a difference between what you want to be the case and actually is.

                      There is a degree of comparison between the quality of fighters the two boxers fought in their biggest fights:

                      Taylor: Hopkins, Pavlik, Wright, Spinks, Ouma

                      Calzaghe: Hopkins, Kessler, Eubank, Reid, Mitchell

                      It is debateable as to who has the better list of fighters, I would say Calzaghe, a Taylor fan would say Taylor.

                      The problem for the Taylor fan is that their point is moot, Calzaghe won all of his and Taylor lost twice and drew once. Based on these fights alone, Calzaghe's resume is better than Taylor's.

                      Then there are some more things to consider: In addition to these fighters Joe Calzaghe also fought Lacy, Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, Omar Sheika, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem. The names I list here are not greats of boxing by any means, but are meaningful wins over meaningful opponents, they all add up on Calzaghe's resume as succesful title defences. Taylor's is sadly lacking in these, beyond Spinks and Ouma who we have already accounted for.

                      Then, finally you have to account for the two resumes as a whole. Calzaghe's represents an undefeated run as a pro over 15 years, 21 title defences and 10 years as champion, and a linear title in another weight division, all without a single slip up or off-night, which could have happened at any time. Compare this with Taylor: great title win over B-Hop, proved it in the rematch, two solid defences, a draw, then a pair of losses to the first prime fighter he faced as champion. Calzaghe comes out on top again.

                      As many have said already, Jermain Taylor's resume is not even close to being as good as Calzaghe's.
                      Exactly....

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