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  • Originally posted by dstew View Post
    Show me where I said he is breaking ground?

    And no need to paint him as a liar when his statements to the press indicate as much.

    As for bitterness against him, my persistence with this discussion has had as much to do with how you come across as how Joe comes across, if not moreso. You haven't once stepped back, like abadger did, and basically said he can't explain his actions but he still respects him as a fighter. Or that you question his decision to fight Jones.

    No, instead you've spent this entire time trying explain his actions in order to somehow prove that I'm being ridiculous, or even more absurd - trying to change my opinion on Calzaghe's behavior, which is not going to happen. Only he can do that, because my opinions are based on the facts I've shown here, and how they match up with my own values. You cannot do ANYTHING to change that.
    All boxers are weasels then mate. Like I said, this is not the first time this has happened. I personally dont see it that way but then again Im not the type to randomly call professional fighters duckers, cowards, weasels or liars at the drop of a hat.

    I dont question the fight with Jones because I think its actually a harder fight. I explained his actions quite clearly as being driven by securing the Jones payday (something which he thought he would never get, hence the Pavlik talk) before they both retired

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    • Originally posted by dstew View Post
      Show me where I said he is breaking ground?

      And no need to paint him as a liar when his statements to the press indicate as much.

      As for bitterness against him, my persistence with this discussion has had as much to do with how you come across as how Joe comes across, if not moreso. You haven't once stepped back, like abadger did, and basically said he can't explain his actions but he still respects him as a fighter. Or that you question his decision to fight Jones.

      No, instead you've spent this entire time trying explain his actions in order to somehow prove that I'm being ridiculous, or even more absurd - trying to change my opinion on Calzaghe's behavior, which is not going to happen. Only he can do that, because my opinions are based on the facts I've shown here, and how they match up with my own values. You cannot do ANYTHING to change that.
      The constant stream of excuses is unbelievable. Dirk will DO ANYTHING to excuse anything Joe does. And to build up a shot Roy Jones so that Joes win over a guy who should have retired a while back looks really good and legacy defining rather than a guy basically beating up an old shot fighter.

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      • Originally posted by bsrizpac View Post
        The constant stream of excuses is unbelievable. Dirk will DO ANYTHING to excuse anything Joe does. And to build up a shot Roy Jones so that Joes win over a guy who should have retired a while back looks really good and legacy defining rather than a guy basically beating up an old shot fighter.
        Joe has never said it was legacy defining.

        I love how people like you forget that Calzaghe is 37 himself and clearly also past his best.

        Oh and you never answered my question about Floyd and Tony

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        • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
          I dont question the fight with Jones because I think its actually a harder fight.

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          • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Joe has never said it was legacy defining.

            I love how people like you forget that Calzaghe is 37 himself and clearly also past his best.

            Oh and you never answered my question about Floyd and Tony
            That was an off topic point as you said. Your excuses are boring. Also trying to discuss this kinds of things is a waste of time with you. When presented with evidence, you nitpick, distract, wax semantics, and generally make excuses all while avoiding the main point anyone is making if it's against Joe or a UK fighter.

            I don't forget Calzaghe is 37. It's just a different 37 than Roy's is. Different kinds of primes and wear and tear.

            But don't worry, keep letting the excuses fly. There's always an excuse for good old Joe.

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            • Originally posted by bsrizpac View Post
              That was an off topic point as you said. You're excuses are boring.

              I don't forget Calzaghe is 37. It's just a different 37 than Roy's is. Different kinds of primes and wear and tear.

              But don't worry, keep letting the excuses fly. There's always an excuse for good old Joe.
              Yeah because Roy has been in so many wars.

              Calzaghe showed signs of slowing down against Hopkins. Yet i can almost gurantee it wont be made an issue should he lose or even look bad against Jones.

              Why cant you answer the question?

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              • Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
                Styles make fights.

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                • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  Yeah because Roy has been in so many wars.

                  Calzaghe showed signs of slowing down against Hopkins. Yet i can almost gurantee it wont be made an issue should he lose or even look bad against Jones.

                  Why cant you answer the question?
                  Yes. Poor Joe. Everyone always out to get him.

                  Answering your questions are a waste of time. If someone produces evidence (the Merchant video) you ignore it or come up with some excuse or tangent.

                  Hard to take a guy seriously who thinks :

                  Tito (at this stage),Prince Badi, and henshaw are good competition.

                  Bunce is a good legit source on boxing. As legit as Larry Merchant.
                  Pavlik has less boxing skill than Lacy
                  Joe could beef up to heavyweight and win.
                  Joe is old too, just like Roy. Joe should be given credit for fighting Roy this late in his game.
                  Joe is anywhere near as shot as Roy.
                  Any ****** thing Joe might say is excusable cause someone somewhere else has done it.

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                  • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    Yeah because Roy has been in so many wars.

                    Calzaghe showed signs of slowing down against Hopkins. Yet i can almost gurantee it wont be made an issue should he lose or even look bad against Jones.

                    Why cant you answer the question?
                    Roy is SHOT. There's a difference. But you wouldn't get that.

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                    • Originally posted by bsrizpac View Post
                      Yes. Poor Joe. Everyone always out to get him.

                      Answering your questions are a waste of time. If someone produces evidence (the Merchant video) you ignore it or come up with some excuse or tangent.

                      Hard to take a guy seriously who thinks :

                      Tito (at this stage),Prince Badi, and henshaw are good competition.

                      Bunce is a good legit source on boxing. As legit as Larry Merchant.
                      Pavlik has less boxing skill than Lacy
                      Joe could beef up to heavyweight and win.
                      Joe is old too, just like Roy. Joe should be given credit for fighting Roy this late in his game.
                      Joe is anywhere near as shot as Roy.
                      Any ****** thing Joe might say is excusable cause someone somewhere else has done it.
                      Well i just wanna make sure you trust in your own evidence. So what you saying about Floyd and Tony?

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