Abraham has a padded record! Felix Sturm has a better record!

[Landshark]

When he refuses to come out of his little hole.


I agree he has skills but he talked up his skills and said he would ko AA. Then Sauderland made him an offer of more money then he will ever make, he has yet to respond.

"yet to respond"=D E C L I N E D

[joseph5620]

[QUOTE=Landshark;4127893]Every boxer has "some" padding in there records, Pavlik fighting Locket is one example, even though Pavlick is undisputed middle champion.


Pavlik is not the undisputed champion until he beats Abraham.

[Flawless 2]

[QUOTE=joseph5620;4131603]

Every boxer has "some" padding in there records, Pavlik fighting Locket is one example, even though Pavlick is undisputed middle champion.


Pavlik is not the undisputed champion until he beats Abraham.

He beat Taylor twice he is undisputed champion. Beating Edison twice means **** all, Pavlik KO’d him

[VanesBoxing]

[QUOTE=Flawless 2;4131609]

He beat Taylor twice he is undisputed champion. Beating Edison twice means **** all, Pavlik KO’d him

nope... undisputed means ALL 4 belts...

one of those belts (IBF) is with King Arthur... if Pavlik can beat Abraham, then he is no doubt crowned UNDISPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT WORLD CHAMP

[ragingvic]

[QUOTE=VanesBoxing;4131612]

nope... undisputed means ALL 4 belts...

one of those belts (IBF) is with King Arthur... if Pavlik can beat Abraham, then he is no doubt crowned UNDISPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT WORLD CHAMP

Actually i think he would need to beat sturm to be undisputed, but everyone knows sturm would never take a fight with AA or Pavlik even if his family's life was on the line.

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=joseph5620;4131603]

Every boxer has "some" padding in there records, Pavlik fighting Locket is one example, even though Pavlick is undisputed middle champion.


Pavlik is not the undisputed champion until he beats Abraham.

This is the problem with all the ABC titles. Pavlik beat the man, who beat the man. This alone makes him the middleweight champion. Its no different than when Floyd beat Baldomir. I may not have liked it, but it didn't change the fact that he beat the man who beat the man.

[VanesBoxing]

[QUOTE=ragingvic;4131618]

Actually i think he would need to beat sturm to be undisputed, but everyone knows sturm would never take a fight with AA or Pavlik even if his family's life was on the line.

no aper... Sturm is wayyyyyyy out of the picture when it comes to title unification between Pavlik and Abraham.

this is a SUPER FIGHT to unify all belts at Middleweight... Sturm at best can get a ringside seat for this fight and clap for the 2 guys that would crush him.

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=VanesBoxing;4131612]

nope... undisputed means ALL 4 belts...

one of those belts (IBF) is with King Arthur... if Pavlik can beat Abraham, then he is no doubt crowned UNDISPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT WORLD CHAMP

Since that alphabet groups are geared toward themselves and not boxing, this is next to impossible. Kelly is champ, but he needs to fight Abraham.

[ragingvic]

[QUOTE=VanesBoxing;4131626]

no aper... Sturm is wayyyyyyy out of the picture when it comes to title unification between Pavlik and Abraham.

this is a SUPER FIGHT to unify all belts at Middleweight... Sturm at best can get a ringside seat for this fight and clap for the 2 guys that would crush him.

Yeah I agree, but he holds one of the straps required for undisputed. no?

[ragingvic]

whats going on with all the qupting being off?