Abraham has a padded record! Felix Sturm has a better record!

[Pullcounter]

Im looking at Abrahams record. His 2 biggest wins have been over Miranda. Miranda is not a world class fighter, extremely limited. Lacks innovation and decent combinations.

Some interesting things come to mind when looking at Abrahams record and power.

1: A lot of weak chinned fighters have gone 12 with Abraham. Shannon Taylor for one. He has been struggling to beat professional making there debuts here in OZ lately.

Ayala went 12 with Abraham, and was only dropped in the last.

I mean sure its good to say hes awesome. But when you don't rate Miranda, which i don't. I tend to think we may be missing the truth with Abraham.

Felix Sturm has a more proven record.

lets see abraham/sturm then to decided who's the king of padded records.

[KingArthur]

lets see abraham/sturm then to decided who's the king of padded records.

see AA's people already offered Sturm MAJOR MONEY for a fight.....................................Strum refused.

[deanrw]

While on subject, the Middleweight division is weak and Abraham's record is just a reflection of the state of the division. I mean Pavlik's record is not much better except for Taylor.

On that note:

Miranda is not as bad as many here claim. Sure he has limitations, but he looked lifeless in Abraham 2 even before he got hurt.

Everyone was claiming Miranda was so ripped before the fight. Yes he was, but he was sickly and dehydrated. I mean look at his face in them.

Miranda simply needs new trainers. It is probably too late for him now, but he needs to stop the damn weight training.



Here he is before the Pavlik fight also. In both photos he looks weight drained.



Not making excuses for him, but something just is not right with that guy and maybe he does belong at Lt. Heavy.

[VanesBoxing]

Abraham KO Sturm 5

[JAB5239]

I tell you what.... Im starting to notice something... Alot of fighters got padded records.

Lol, thats what Im talking about!!:

[Skunk]

Talking about padded records in this way presupposes that there are large numbers of 'elite' boxers to fight and that that it is always possible to fight them. The reality is that most boxers 'prove' themselves by beating 'the best of the rest' in their division and then if they are lucky go on to bigger fights against fellow standout performers, but it is not fair to label every victory against mid-level opposition as padding or meaningless. These type of opponents are very often ranked in the top ten or twenty of their division, but get labelled as bums because they aren't a big name. There simply aren't enough titles to make every boxer a supposed 'elite', so we should be hesitant before dismissing mid-level guys. If we did that then no boxer would ever have an impressive record.

[Slotff]

I hate to say it, but getting KO'd by Castillejo is more high profile than anything that Abraham has done.

Regardless, its only a matter of time until Arthur proves himself. Arthur will knock Felix the **** out!

[Dick-Sucker]

I hate to say it, but getting KO'd by Castillejo is more high profile than anything that Abraham has done.

Regardless, its only a matter of time until Arthur proves himself. Arthur will knock Felix the **** out!

Felix outboxed him the next fight.

Not many fighters can do that.

[Zarco]

I'm sorry but Strum is a joke!

How is a guy that has great boxing skills ever a joke?

[Derranged]

Abraham KO 1 Denzel Washington.