Is Hopkins an ATG??

[IMDAZED]

imo 47 is odlh's natural weight, and bhop was not weight drained at 60. you can't be weight drained for all those yrs and be a champion as long as he was. as t stated he may have been at the end a little, but overall he was not imo.

Yea, except he weighed 156 against Oscar as their contract stated.

[T-97]

Yea, except he weighed 156 against Oscar as their contract stated.

Oh yea I forgot that, He probably could have made 154 if he trained hard enough

[IMDAZED]

Oh yea I forgot that, He probably could have made 154 if he trained hard enough

Yup.

It's why I laugh at the "he beat smaller guys" argument. Hopkins is just an incredible physical speciman who doesn't fall out of shape - he probably COULD make 154 if he really wanted then. I mean, 156? That's incredible.

[mellow_mood]

Yes he is!

[TheGreatA]

Pacquiao started at 108, is he a natural 108 pounder?

Where you start doesn't mean you are natural there, by that logic Cotto is just a blown up Lightwelter. De La Hoya is a Natural Welter, or Lt-Middleweight. If I had a fight today I would be a super middleweight, I'm not a natural 168 pounder though.

Oh, and B Hop was NEVER Weight Drained. Towards the end of his Middleweight reign he did show signs of it slightly though, and Steward commented that a move to Light Heavy would be a good idea. But he was not drained at that weight.

Hopkins wasn't weight-drained until he was around 40 years of age. He could've even fought at light middleweight if he had wanted, Hopkins weighed in at around 154 lbs several times.
Hopkins didn't put on much weight after the weigh-ins either.

Oscar was down several times as a lightweight but he is now known for his solid chin at welterweight.

De La Hoya and Trinidad were both at their best at WW/LMW for sure, but Trinidad had the frame to fight at middleweight as well, De La Hoya did not.


Hopkins in his prime against Glen Johnson

[T-97]

Hopkins wasn't weight-drained until he was around 40 years of age. He could've even fought at light middleweight if he had wanted, Hopkins weighed in at around 154 lbs several times.
Hopkins didn't put on weight after the weigh-ins either.

Yep. That's what I mean, he never showed any sign of it until later in his career, as you said around 40 years of age. And around that time he did move up to 175, and looked very good.

Oscar was down several times as a lightweight but he is now known for his solid chin at welterweight.

De La Hoya and Trinidad were both at their best at WW/LMW for sure, but Trinidad had the frame to fight at middleweight as well, De La Hoya did not.

Yep, Oscar fought as a Lightweight at about Age 19, not fully develloped. And moved up to 140 in his early 20s. And about a year after that was at Welter.

[joseph5620]

De La Hoya started at 135 and had a lot of his earlier success there.

Hopkins started at light heavyweight and lost, so he weight-drained down to middleweight to fight smaller men.

Hopkins sure fought pretty good for years of being being "weight drained" lol. If Hopkins "weight drained" to 160 then Delahoya "weight drained" to make 135. Your agenda fails in this argument.

[larryx]

no, I Think An Old Ex-convict Who Hits & Holds And Headbutts His Way To Boring Wins Doesn't Belong There.

Most Of His Biggist Wins Were Over Smaller Men, Natural Welterweights. He Started As A Light Heavyweight.

He Was Convicted For Stealing Old Ladies' Purses. That's Low.

He's A Poor Sport, Who Couldn't Be A Man And Acknowledge Calzaghe Won Their Fight.

He Even Pretended He Was Hurt From A Low Blow - That's Poor Sportsmanship Too.

And He's A Racist Who Said He Would Never Let A White Boy Beat Him.

Wtf Does Him Going To Jail Have To Do With Him Cleaning Out The Middleweight Division 20 Title Defenses Undefeated For 11 Years...he Paid His Debt To Society...wtf Is Wrong With You

[ИATAS]

The 7 people that voted no are clearly haters. The answer is an OBVIOUS yes.

Hopkins is top 3 middleweight of ALL TIME (depending on who you like more of course).

[ИATAS]

Wtf Does Him Going To Jail Have To Do With Him Cleaning Out The Middleweight Division 20 Title Defenses Undefeated For 11 Years...he Paid His Debt To Society...wtf Is Wrong With You

Yeah exactly. He was like 16 years of age when he committed the crime too. Tunney is just a douchebag, a racist, a hater, etc.