Is Hopkins an ATG??

[daggum]

The Fat Winky that fought Hopkins 15lbs above his natural weight is not better than Kessler.

Tarver > Eubank? Funny ****.

Your argument for Tito being a legit opponent for Hopkins was that he KOed a middleweight. Lacy was KOing Super Middleweights and was actually the same size/bigger than Calzaghe. Tito is the better boxer, but then Juan Manuel Marquez is a great boxer but he wouldnt do well against Hopkins or Calzaghe.

And what does this have to do with Calzaghe anyway? You seem to relate all your threads to him.

To answer your post, Hopkins is an ATG Middleweight. He'd rank significantly lower on the ATG fighters in all divisions.

why is eubank so great may i ask? he ko'd nigel benn and was the king of gift decisions. tarver beat roy jones, glen johnson, montell griffin and clinton woods. all bums i guess. cept for woods he's a euro bum right.

[bsrizpac]

why is eubank so great may i ask? he ko'd nigel benn and was the king of gift decisions. tarver beat roy jones, glen johnson, montell griffin and clinton woods. all bums i guess. cept for woods he's a euro bum right.

Don't even talk to this guy. He's a ****ing idiot.

He still thinks eubank was in his prime when Joe fought him. He's living under Joe and all UK fighters' ballsacks. It's like trying to convince a **** that ***s arent' that bad. Waste of time.

[RisAri0]

besides Calzaghe... no fighter in his 30's was as good as B-Hop was in his 30's. 20 defenses at MW is an ATG attribute. So yes he is an ATG. He did whatever worked for him inside the ring and that was to bewilder and punish his opponents. He's boxing's wild card cuz his style can beat anyone but at the same time... he can be beat.

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I'd like to add that B-Hop is a throwback fighter in its truest form. He's a 15 round type of fighter.

[Jose Rizal]

learn something. Hopkins career didn't start in 2007.

Yup... Bhop wasn't a safety first fighter through most of his career. He got less active in fights as he aged but nevertheless, he still remains formidable.

[MELLY-MEL...]

if you need to ask, you don't belong here!

[T-97]

natural lightweights like DLH

De La Hoya is a Natural Lightweight?....Oh......Sorry, that's crazy man. He fought there, but he is a natural Welter-Lt Middleweight, he even won a Middleweight title. Oscar De La Hoya is not a natural Lightweight man.

On Topic- Yes.

[The Hammer]

De La Hoya is a Natural Lightweight?....Oh......Sorry, that's crazy man. He fought there, but he is a natural Welter-Lt Middleweight, he even won a Middleweight title. Oscar De La Hoya is not a natural Lightweight man.

On Topic- Yes.

De La Hoya started at 135 and had a lot of his earlier success there.

Hopkins started at light heavyweight and lost, so he weight-drained down to middleweight to fight smaller men.

[T-97]

De La Hoya started at 135 and had a lot of his earlier success there.

Pacquiao started at 108, is he a natural 108 pounder?

Where you start doesn't mean you are natural there, by that logic Cotto is just a blown up Lightwelter. De La Hoya is a Natural Welter, or Lt-Middleweight. If I had a fight today I would be a super middleweight, I'm not a natural 168 pounder though.

Oh, and B Hop was NEVER Weight Drained. Towards the end of his Middleweight reign he did show signs of it slightly though, and Steward commented that a move to Light Heavy would be a good idea. But he was not drained at that weight.

[MELLY-MEL...]

imo 47 is odlh's natural weight, and bhop was not weight drained at 60. you can't be weight drained for all those yrs and be a champion as long as he was. as t stated he may have been at the end a little, but overall he was not imo.

[T-97]

imo 47 is odlh's natural weight, and bhop was not weight drained at 60. you can't be weight drained for all those yrs and be a champion as long as he was. as t stated he may have been at the end a little, but overall he was not imo.

Calzaghe had more trouble making 168 than Hopkins did to make 160 as well lol. I would say De La Hoya was his best at Welter, but I think a case could be made for 154 as well.