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Cotto/Margarito Co-Headline in 09, Rematch in June

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  • #51
    Cotto has two ways to beat Margs. To outbox Margs all night and he has to come forward and make Margs back up. Thats how Pwill did it. Margs had a terrible connect %, so if Cotto slips, slides and moves, he will avoid most of those punches. Question is who will Margs fight, Shane or Mayorga? Hopefully Arum throws Clottey at Pwill and we have a great fight. That would be a tough one to call, but think Pwill would beat him off of activity.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by -GBGQ- View Post
      No wayyyyyy.

      What sense would it make to have it and SO SOON?

      Miguel Cotto in looked near perfect in the early rounds. What is he really going to do different?
      I have to agree. I hope Miguel learns from Cintron's pride of wanting a rematch.


      Originally posted by HTownTexan View Post
      This is how it has been his whole career. Fight some who had a punch, got rocked, then fight feather dusters. Its what Cotto does.
      Your comment contradicts itself, you talk about Cotto being 'rocked' but then you turn around and say he's fighting 'feather dusters' his WHOLE career.


      Oh Shut up and watch his whole career before commenting on it!!
      You can't strip Cotto of all credibility because of what happened with Marg!
      And if by any chance you DID watch his whole career, which I doubt, then you wouldn't be talking so negative about him.


      Originally posted by HTownTexan View Post
      Cotto has always shown in his career that he had a, lets say, vulnerable chin. Did the chicken dance to Torres and Corley. Torres trained for 2 1/2 weeks and wanted a rematch, he never got it. Why? Because of the potential KO was just way too much risk, not enough reward. Then he went on to fight Urkal, Branco, Paulie, Quintana and some others that were feather fisted. Beats a washed up Zab and a no steroid old as hell, shell of his former self Shane.
      Now your list (Urkal, Branco, Paulie, Quintana, Zab, Shane) are a bunch of nobodies, huh?
      You sound like a boxer that hates admired champions.
      What have YOU accomplished?

      Originally posted by HTownTexan View Post
      Cotto always put his head down with the gloves as ear muffs. But no one was good enough to expose it.
      Not ALWAYS, there's been fights in his career when he didn't have to 'ear muff', but
      even if, what's that say against him? He protects his chin, now what? YOU'VE EXPOSED A FLAW?
      Shane capitilized on this and came in over the blind side - and he wasn't the only one, but Shane wasn't good enough?

      Originally posted by HTownTexan View Post
      Cotto always had a vulnerable chin. But no one was good enough to capitalize on it. People blamed the chin on being at 140, but it is clear that that was not the reason. The reason was because his chin was not that good in the first place. So by these words I just put, Cotto's weaknesses were EXPOSED.
      You cant fight facts, you can only hope they dont come up.
      I have said this since I first joined. I didnt just think this up after the loss.
      What's your point? Cotto's no good because he has weaknesses?
      I think Cotto's good, cause he made it to the top WITH these weaknesses!



      Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya View Post
      cotto is a determined fighter. he believe he can get even with margarito, and i admire him for that reason alone though i don't see him surviving with margarito the second time around. why is he in a hurry to have a rematch? if he reviewed the tape, he already unload his power punches to margarito's body, head and chin but the man was still standing and chasing him from one corner to the other as if he was not hit at all. that would have scared him...

      I hope you're right about Cotto having a good reason to rematch.

      I don't see ANYTHING being much different. It's not that Cotto had that many flaws in the fight, his performance was excellent. It's just Marg's iron chin!
      You're wrong about ONE thing - the body. If you watch it again, you'll see Cotto didn't unload much on Marg's ribs. When asked about it afterwards, Cotto said "I didn't see any opening for body shots".
      And that's how majority of his wins came, you know?
      I hope Cotto changes his mind and fights alot more before a rematch.



      Last edited by anonymousboxing; 09-10-2008, 09:03 AM.

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      • #53
        I'm a Cotto fan and I know that Cotto is a better more rounded boxer than Marg is but I have to also be honest and say that it will turn out the exact way the first fight did, Cotto will be outboxing him the first few rounds but will run out of air later. When you have a good body puncher like Marg in front of you and you don't have any air left in your lungs it becomes a fatal combination and that's exactly what happened in the first fight. I myself thought that Marg was too big and strong for Cotto the minute I started seeing the fight. I will be honest and say that I predicted Cotto would knock him out but you have to give Marg credit, he was a better man that night and I am afraid he will destroy Cotto even quicker the next time around! No way Cotto will win a rematch if he can't get inside and try to land his bodyshots which is what he is known for.....

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        • #54
          I think Cotto will come in with a better gameplan this time around. But it'll be a tough fight nonetheless.

          But let's see how Cotto looks in Jan-Feb.

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          • #55
            this is great
            margarito has cotto number hes gonna destroy him

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            • #56
              it looks now like bob arum has no regard for human life if hes going to force cotto to fight this mexican bad ass one more time. i dont think cotto is ready for another beating.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by cruz View Post
                I'm a Cotto fan and I know that Cotto is a better more rounded boxer than Marg is but I have to also be honest and say that it will turn out the exact way the first fight did, Cotto will be outboxing him the first few rounds but will run out of air later. When you have a good body puncher like Marg in front of you and you don't have any air left in your lungs it becomes a fatal combination and that's exactly what happened in the first fight. I myself thought that Marg was too big and strong for Cotto the minute I started seeing the fight. I will be honest and say that I predicted Cotto would knock him out but you have to give Marg credit, he was a better man that night and I am afraid he will destroy Cotto even quicker the next time around! No way Cotto will win a rematch if he can't get inside and try to land his bodyshots which is what he is known for.....
                You got THAT right!

                The 'air in the lungs' as you put it came from the broken nose, but EVEN IF
                this next time around his nose doesn't get broken, Marg will smother his punches!!!
                Every other cotto-opponent backed off after being stung which gave cotto room, but Marg walked right through Miguel's bombs.

                I can see Cotto beating Marg if he comes back with an all new game/artillary/and mind set, but this is just TOO soon.
                Hopefully I'm wrong.



                Last edited by anonymousboxing; 09-10-2008, 10:33 AM.

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                • #58
                  That is kinda messed up. Marg should fight someone more his size yet these fighters keep ducking him. Miguel boxed his you know what off but Marg wouldn't go down. The only thing different he could do is more body shots to slow him down but, that's going to be soo hard against Marg. I'm a big Miguel fan too and it would be awesome for him overcome this challenge and be victorious, but this is going to be super hard. Plus he has nothing to be ashamed of. He put on a great performance. I say Pavlik vs Marg. That would be a classic fight.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                    That's much faster than I thought it would be, if Cotto thinks he's ready then great.
                    The claus in the contract said mandatory rematch for Cotto as long as it was within 1 year of the first fight. They fought in July 08 so the fight in June of 09 makes sense the longest he could put it out and have time for recoverey and maybe one tune up fight in early 09.....Lefty

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by HTownTexan View Post
                      Alright dude, Collazo has never did ****. He built his name of off 2 losses. To Ricky and Shane. Thats not good.


                      Cotto has always shown in his career that he had a, lets say, vulnerable chin. Did the chicken dance to Torres and Corley. Torres trained for 2 1/2 weeks and wanted a rematch, he never got it. Why? Because of the potential KO was just way too much risk, not enough reward. Then he went on to fight Urkal, Branco, Paulie, Quintana and some others that were feather fisted. Beats a washed up Zab and a no steroid old as hell, shell of his former self Shane.

                      Cotto always put his head down with the gloves as ear muffs. But no one was good enough to expose it. Cotto always had a vulnerable chin. But no one was good enough to capitalize on it. People blamed the chin on being at 140, but it is clear that that was not the reason. The reason was because his chin was not that good in the first place. So by these words I just put, Cotto's weaknesses were EXPOSED.

                      You cant fight facts, you can only hope they dont come up.

                      I have said this since I first joined. I didnt just think this up after the loss.
                      EXPOSED??? Margarito beat on him for 11 rounds to the body. I don't think he was exposed plain and simple if you get caught with a good shot by a world class fighter and you are going to get hurt. he got up off the canvas and won both of those fights. Ali was floored by Fraizer does that mean his chin was made of glass? I think if Cotto can rearrange his game plan and excute it properly he can beat Margarito....Lefty

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