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Cotto/Margarito Co-Headline in 09, Rematch in June
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Originally posted by cruz View PostI'm a Cotto fan and I know that Cotto is a better more rounded boxer than Marg is but I have to also be honest and say that it will turn out the exact way the first fight did, Cotto will be outboxing him the first few rounds but will run out of air later. When you have a good body puncher like Marg in front of you and you don't have any air left in your lungs it becomes a fatal combination and that's exactly what happened in the first fight. I myself thought that Marg was too big and strong for Cotto the minute I started seeing the fight. I will be honest and say that I predicted Cotto would knock him out but you have to give Marg credit, he was a better man that night and I am afraid he will destroy Cotto even quicker the next time around! No way Cotto will win a rematch if he can't get inside and try to land his bodyshots which is what he is known for.....
The thing is, Cotto cannot stand and trade body shot with Marg or he will get KO'd. He cannot go forward as someone on here posted because that's exactly what Marg wants you to do.
The thing is, Cotto is the better boxer but that doesn't always mean you will win. Sometimes strength size and chin are too much even for someone like Cotto.
I see this fight going the same way, with Cotto being more pridefull and coming forward more and trading more with Marg and getting KO'd even earlier. I say Marg KO in about 8-9 rounds.
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Originally posted by -GBGQ- View PostNo wayyyyyy.
What sense would it make to have it and SO SOON?
Miguel Cotto in looked near perfect in the early rounds. What is he really going to do different?
Look at the second Santos fight, when Santos moved he got his ass kicked. When he stood and traded and used his superior hand speed and technique, he kicked Margarito's ass.
What Cotto needs to do is pick his spots, counter and put some hurt on Margarito. He likes to use his legs but he's going to have to save his legs for the later rounds and counter punch. If he stands his ground he'll also be able to set up some body shots. What he should do is go head/body and body/head to mix up his arsenal. That way Margarito can't catch onto the pattern and move with the punches. Then set up and do it again.
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Originally posted by Sweet Revenge View PostWill he be allowed to wear headgear? No I'm just playing, I think he can do some things differently, the only question is, is he strong enough to get them done. You can't run from Margarito, I don't understand the logic of fighters who think they can just box him for 12 rounds, it doesn't work that way with Margarito's pressure.
Look at the second Santos fight, when Santos moved he got his ass kicked. When he stood and traded and used his superior hand speed and technique, he kicked Margarito's ass.
What Cotto needs to do is pick his spots, counter and put some hurt on Margarito. He likes to use his legs but he's going to have to save his legs for the later rounds and counter punch. If he stands his ground he'll also be able to set up some body shots. What he should do is go head/body and body/head to mix up his arsenal. That way Margarito can't catch onto the pattern and move with the punches. Then set up and do it again.
THE WAY YOU BEAT MARG IS BY OUTBOXING HIM.
You can't compaire Santos to Cotto. Santos is much bigger and can handle standing with Marg and trading. That would be suicide for Cotto.
The only way Cotto beats Marg is if he can box for 12 full rounds, being so fast he makes Marg miss him ALL NIGHT. I don't see that happening because as good of a boxer as Cotto is, he can't sustain that type of moving for 12 rounds while Marg is just stalking him.
If he decides to go to th body more as you people want, he will stand on the inside, trading with Marg which is exactly what you don't want to do.
Marg is too big and too strong for Cotto.
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Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View PostTHE WAY YOU BEAT MARG IS BY OUTBOXING HIM.
You can't compaire Santos to Cotto. Santos is much bigger and can handle standing with Marg and trading. That would be suicide for Cotto.
The only way Cotto beats Marg is if he can box for 12 full rounds, being so fast he makes Marg miss him ALL NIGHT. I don't see that happening because as good of a boxer as Cotto is, he can't sustain that type of moving for 12 rounds while Marg is just stalking him.
If he decides to go to th body more as you people want, he will stand on the inside, trading with Marg which is exactly what you don't want to do.
Marg is too big and too strong for Cotto.
You can't make someone who throws all night miss all night, it's just not happening. Sooner or later you need to take a break and if Margarito is still fresh, he will make you fight when you need to.
I don't ever recall seeing a fighter box for 12 rounds and make him miss all night, and he has 5 losses. That's just not the way to fight a guy like him, you need to stand your ground, make him miss, make him pay and slow his pressure. The faster you run, the faster he chases you.
If you mix the attack up and make him pay for his mistakes, everything else will open up.
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Cotto boxed well, but not perfectly. If he had a major flaw, it was the fact that when he countered Tony, he would knock him off guard a bit. What he should have done is immediately stepped in with some shots to the body. Not only does he buy his legs some time by moving forward (which is always easier than moving backwards), but he takes some zip off of Margarito's punches by knocking some wind out of him. It also means he's not in a position to take shots of his own to the ribs.
Tony still would have gotten to him at times, but I think Cotto could have pulled out the 12 round decision that way.
It's an awkward style matchup, and I hate that people are calling this an "exposure" of Cotto, or excluding him from the future of this division. He's a great champion, and he can provide a great show against any fighter.
I hope Cotto wins, because I'd like to see them do it a 3rd time, and become the rivalry of this era.
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Originally posted by Sweet Revenge View PostWill he be allowed to wear headgear? No I'm just playing, I think he can do some things differently, the only question is, is he strong enough to get them done. You can't run from Margarito, I don't understand the logic of fighters who think they can just box him for 12 rounds, it doesn't work that way with Margarito's pressure.
Look at the second Santos fight, when Santos moved he got his ass kicked. When he stood and traded and used his superior hand speed and technique, he kicked Margarito's ass.
What Cotto needs to do is pick his spots, counter and put some hurt on Margarito. He likes to use his legs but he's going to have to save his legs for the later rounds and counter punch. If he stands his ground he'll also be able to set up some body shots. What he should do is go head/body and body/head to mix up his arsenal. That way Margarito can't catch onto the pattern and move with the punches. Then set up and do it again.
Cotto is capable of pulling out a win, he just needs to fight the right fight. Nobody here can say for certain that Cotto will always lose to Margarito after watching the first 7-8 rounds of that fight. If he can fight that well for that long he can make some adjustments to be more effective over a longer distance. Miguel needs to tweak some aspects of his game, but that's what a good pro does.
I'll definitely be looking forward to the rematch. We all know it will be a good fight at least.
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Originally posted by Sweet Revenge View PostOutboxing him, yes, but footwork alone won't negate Margarito's pressure. And I don't think it's a stretch to say that Cotto has to stand his ground because look at what Clottey was able to do, he didn't run from Margarito, he stood his ground, got full leverage and walked him into punches.
You can't make someone who throws all night miss all night, it's just not happening. Sooner or later you need to take a break and if Margarito is still fresh, he will make you fight when you need to.
I don't ever recall seeing a fighter box for 12 rounds and make him miss all night, and he has 5 losses. That's just not the way to fight a guy like him, you need to stand your ground, make him miss, make him pay and slow his pressure. The faster you run, the faster he chases you.
If you mix the attack up and make him pay for his mistakes, everything else will open up.
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