Did Roy Jones ever beat a fighter in their prime?

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    #41
    Originally posted by deevel79
    Roy did infact posses supernatural skills, but his resume is a bit weak for someone of his caliber. Did Roy actually ever fight a top 10 pfp fighter who was in his prime?
    James Toney. And yes Toney was in his prime. Just because that night Toney was not at his best does not mean that it was not a prime Toney. What was Roy supposed to do, go to Toney's training camp and regulate his food intake?

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      #42
      Originally posted by danc1984
      James Toney. And yes Toney was in his prime. Just because that night Toney was not at his best does not mean that it was not a prime Toney. What was Roy supposed to do, go to Toney's training camp and regulate his food intake?
      Ok, lets say Tony. That is 1 fighter in his entire career that was top 10 pfp who was in his prime at the time Roy faced him. Bit weak dont u think? Im not bashing Roy now. I actually like him, but facts are facts, and his resume is a bit weak for a fighter of his caliber.

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        #43
        Originally posted by deevel79
        Ok, lets say Tony. That is 1 fighter in his entire career that was top 10 pfp who was in his prime at the time Roy faced him. Bit weak dont u think? Im not bashing Roy now. I actually like him, but facts are facts, and his resume is a bit weak for a fighter of his caliber.
        Roy is known more for being a multi-weight champ more than the fighters hes faced... hes obviously faced good fighters, but its starting out at 154 and going all the way to heavyweight and back down that make his resume strong....

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          #44
          Originally posted by deevel79
          Ok, lets say Tony. That is 1 fighter in his entire career that was top 10 pfp who was in his prime at the time Roy faced him. Bit weak dont u think? Im not bashing Roy now. I actually like him, but facts are facts, and his resume is a bit weak for a fighter of his caliber.
          I'm not denying that the strength of his resume is below the level of his skills. He still has a very solid resume, there are many good fighters and world champions on it. It also has to be considered that there were not a lot of fights available to Roy against genuine p4p guys.

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            #45
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss
            Roy is known more for being a multi-weight champ more than the fighters hes faced... hes obviously faced good fighters, but its starting out at 154 and going all the way to heavyweight and back down that make his resume strong....
            Yeah, it is definately Roy's skills and accomplishments that will define his legacy as an ATG rather than the strength of his resume.

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              #46
              Originally posted by deevel79
              Ok, lets say Tony. That is 1 fighter in his entire career that was top 10 pfp who was in his prime at the time Roy faced him. Bit weak dont u think? Im not bashing Roy now. I actually like him, but facts are facts, and his resume is a bit weak for a fighter of his caliber.
              I think that most agree that yes, Jones resume is actually quite weak, especially for someone of his ability. His best wins outside of Toney and Hopkins, which are both good are the likes of Montell Griffin, Eric Harding and an old Mike McCallum, plus his HW win over Ruiz. Any way you want to slice the cake, these are not great names and it requires a bit of creative thinking to believe they alone make Roy great. I persnally think that Jones resume is reasonable, but that he gets a lot of mileage out of his multi-division title wins, which is perfectly justifiable considering he won from MW to HW, which is pretty awesome.

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                #47
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                Roy is known more for being a multi-weight champ more than the fighters hes faced... hes obviously faced good fighters, but its starting out at 154 and going all the way to heavyweight and back down that make his resume strong....
                I'm not sure that going back down again strengthened his resume exactly!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by abadger
                  I'm not sure that going back down again strengthened his resume exactly!
                  You biased ****. Tarver II was a shocking robbery and that destroyed Roy's confidence.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    Roy is known more for being a multi-weight champ more than the fighters hes faced... hes obviously faced good fighters, but its starting out at 154 and going all the way to heavyweight and back down that make his resume strong....
                    Your views are a bit different then mine, but i respect that. I can care less of how many weight divisions a fighter has fought at. Anyone call pull a Mayweather and pick weak opponents/title holders in each division, then claim to be a multi-division champ. To me, its about the caliber of fighters you face, not how many weight divisions u can fight at. If a fighter competes at only 2 weight classes his entire career, but in the process, cleans them both out, i find that more impressive than a fighter who moves up 3-4-5 weight classes, yet fights mediocre competition along the way.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by danc1984
                      You biased ****. Tarver II was a shocking robbery and that destroyed Roy's confidence.


                      Johnson was even worse. Glencoffe cheated by not being a total bum. Robbery.

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