Lets compare Floyd Mayweather with Pernell Whitaker

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  • warp1432
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    #21
    Originally posted by wmute
    I give chin to pea just because of the tito fight where he was shot and taking all those blows from a monstruous puncher
    Not to mention Whitaker beat Julio Casear Vasquez, who managed to knock Winky Wright down 5 times! I think Whitaker has the better chin.

    I think Whitaker beats him too. The southpaw advantage I think is the key factor.

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    • El Dominicano
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      #22
      Originally posted by wmute
      glad someone mentioned that JCC and Ramirez were robberies. We havent seen Floyd fighting at the age at which Pea fought Oscar.

      The thing is pbf never clowns in the ring so he was less likely to have got into that bs decisions.
      Thank you to! You know your stuff. Thats what I said. Pernell should have not clowned! But while Pernell was acting like an ass DLH was missing and getting tagged just a little bit. Making the rounds hard score. Pernell barely won that fight in my opinion.

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      • El Dominicano
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        #23
        Hmmm I guess I could be wrong about the whole chin part. Mayweather has never or will never be hit by someone as powerful as Tito. Gonna change chin to a Draw becuz still we wouldn't know how Floyd would take Tito's shot.
        Last edited by El Dominicano; 09-01-2008, 07:49 PM.

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        • RodBarker
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          #24
          Originally posted by wmute
          that's an impossible one, I dont agree with everything you typed like I'd give chin to PEA, but accuracy and bodyshots to PBF.

          The main thing to which this boils down is that Whitaker was incredible in a more limited game, whereas Mayweather is more "average" in all compartments, and is the most adaptable and complete fighter since Leonard/Duran.

          Yes, that is saying a lot, but it is what I see going on in the ring.

          So if they ever met, what would do Pea's impeccable game? PBF bag of tricks? And even when assessing them against other greats. Who would do better against who?

          NOTE: not saying Pea is a limited fighter in any way, just that PBF literally does it all.
          I dont see Floyd average anywhere

          I go for Floyd in a 140 suit and Pea at 147 , I wish Floyd had of hung at 140 for a while its a pitty the fights he craved wasnt there , I reckon we would have seen Floyds career best boxing at 140 .

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #25
            Originally posted by El Dominicano
            Flaw chill out man. Pernell beat DLH and you wana know whats funny. You just named 2 of the biggest robbery in the history of boxing. Thats Pernell vs JLM and JCC. Did you know Pernell won every round against JLM?? Not only that JCC only won what 3-4 rounds?! C'mon now!
            for real? pernell was robbed? they were close , controversial fights?

            i didn't know that.

            they never wrote anything on boxrec.

            all i know is floyd has 0 and pernell doesn't have an 0.

            floyd >>>>>>>>> pernell

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            • !! Shawn
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              #26
              The only categories Floyd wins are hand speed and power.

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              • El Dominicano
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                #27
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                for real? pernell was robbed? they were close , controversial fights?

                i didn't know that.

                they never wrote anything on boxrec.

                all i know is floyd has 0 and pernell doesn't have an 0.

                floyd >>>>>>>>> pernell
                Yes those are the 2 of the biggest robberies in the history of the sport. Jose Luis Ramirez lost every round. Wana know if he had a close round?? NO. He was completely dominiated in each round. JCC only won 3-4 rounds that was another big robbery. Watch the fights.
                Last edited by El Dominicano; 09-01-2008, 07:56 PM.

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                • !! Shawn
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Makavelli
                  ramirez fight was in france and pernell got robbed...he handled it in when they came back here for the rematch...


                  as for the JCC fight, man.....pernell could have KO'd JCC...they woulda woke him up and called it a draw
                  As a die hard Whitaker fan, I think Pernell lost the first Ramirez fight. It was just too much too soon for him. He gave up rounds where he shouldn't have, he simply had not mastered the tactics of winning a 12 round fight. In the later rounds he did nothing, and he looked a little uncomfortable at times.

                  All the rounds were close, but Whitaker gave it away down the stretch.

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                  • Dan...
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    The only categories Floyd wins are hand speed and power.
                    Yeah I agree with this. Floyd is great but Pernell was the master.

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                    • El Dominicano
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn
                      As a die hard Whitaker fan, I think Pernell lost the first Ramirez fight. It was just too much too soon for him. He gave up rounds where he shouldn't have, he simply had not mastered the tactics of winning a 12 round fight. In the later rounds he did nothing, and he looked a little uncomfortable at times.

                      All the rounds were close, but Whitaker gave it away down the stretch.
                      I hate people like you. Who ****ing lie about a fight they never saw at all. JLM didn't win ONE round!! He wasn't even competitive in NO rounds. There were NO close rounds. Pernell was NOT uncomfortable. You never saw the fight!! Either that or your ****ing JOKING!!!

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