Is Felix Trinidad an ATG ???

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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #41
    Originally posted by Flawless
    This spray has no affect what so ever
    i need to switch to a stronger brand......

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    • Flawless
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      #42
      He beat a past his prime Pernall, He beat Oscar when he really didn't win. He lost to Winky and RJJ. 4 GREAT NAMES he lost too

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        #43
        Originally posted by Flawless
        He beat Joppy than fights Hopkins. People start making excuses for Tito about size when he was out boxed not out muscled
        Joppy was a solid, respectable middlweight. It was an impressive win. I see no shame in the loss to Hopkins. He lost to what many would consider one of the 10 greatest middlweights ever. I just don't see how that detracts from everything else he accomplished.

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          #44
          he was #30 in ring magazine's top 100 hardest punchers of all time.

          can you count that as points?

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            #45
            Originally posted by Flawless
            He beat a past his prime Pernall, He beat Oscar when he really didn't win. He lost to Winky and RJJ. 4 GREAT NAMES he lost too
            You get one more chance, Flawless. Spell it right....

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              #46
              Originally posted by Shin Akuma
              You get one more chance, Flawless. Spell it right....
              once is a typo. twice is a mistake. a third time means you're ******ed.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Flawless
                How is this man an ATG? He started at 140, he beat a past his prime Whitaker and he lost to Oscar and everyone knows that even Tito himself and Tito sr. Good win against Vargas but 154 and a OK win over at 160, no talks about size at 160 when he KO him. T

                hen meets the Hopkins at 160. Tito weighs in over than Hopkins when the fight happens Tito is COMPLETELY OUT ****ING BOXED, Hopkins did use this so called size advantage in this fight but out boxed Tito and TKO. Comes back and beats Mayorga than loses both to Winky and RJJ.


                Mayweather won a title in his 5 weight class above his natural against De La Hoya and we all know that Oscar’s size difference was greater than Hopkins over Tito. No excuses that Hopkins beat Tito on size he was outboxed and destroyed in that fight.


                Tito is not an ATG

                I hate all time great conversation. I mean a guy can fight no one as a threat and end up as a all time great. He can fight old guys and those old guys will be used as crutches by the worst people of all, the media. So all time great? I won't touch that..


                But Tito was best at 147, definantly one of the best at 147. Now I think Mosley, was Tito's worst nightmare. Fast and powerfull. I think both him and Forrest could have exposed Tito. Now even know I think Oscar just completely outclassed him, I don't even know why Oscar didn't decided to lean into one of those left hooks when he fought Tito, I mean Trinidad's chin is straight styrofoam. One dedicated shot and Tito is on his back. But Tito at 160, I think myth carried with him up in weight, but the truth is, he got shot down at 160 when ever he stepped it up. I mean with that weak chin, he wouldn't have lasted that long even if he didn't retire after hittin his first road bump at 160. If he would have tried to battle for contention again as opposed to retiring, I think the same result would happen. All in all I think he was best at 147, and great at 147.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                  I hate all time great conversation. I mean a guy can fight no one as a threat and end up as a all time great. He can fight old guys and those old guys will be used as crutches by the worst people of all, the media. So all time great? I won't touch that..


                  But Tito was best at 147, definantly one of the best at 147. Now I think Mosley, was Tito's worst nightmare. Fast and powerfull. I think both him and Forrest could have exposed Tito. Now even know I think Oscar just completely outclassed him, I don't even know why Oscar didn't decided to lean into one of those left hooks when he fought Tito, I mean Trinidad's chin is straight styrofoam. One dedicated shot and Tito is on his back. But Tito at 160, I think myth carried with him up in weight, but the truth is, he got shot down at 160 when ever he stepped it up. I mean with that weak chin, he wouldn't have lasted that long even if he didn't retire after hittin his first road bump at 160. If he would have tried to battle for contention again as opposed to retiring, I think the same result would happen. All in all I think he was best at 147, and great at 147.
                  tito has a weak chin?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Flawless
                    How is this man an ATG? He started at 140, he beat a past his prime Whitaker and he lost to Oscar and everyone knows that even Tito himself and Tito sr. Good win against Vargas but 154 and a OK win over at 160, no talks about size at 160 when he KO him. T

                    hen meets the Hopkins at 160. Tito weighs in over than Hopkins when the fight happens Tito is COMPLETELY OUT ****ING BOXED, Hopkins did use this so called size advantage in this fight but out boxed Tito and TKO. Comes back and beats Mayorga than loses both to Winky and RJJ.


                    Mayweather won a title in his 5 weight class above his natural against De La Hoya and we all know that Oscar’s size difference was greater than Hopkins over Tito. No excuses that Hopkins beat Tito on size he was outboxed and destroyed in that fight.


                    Tito is not an ATG
                    I don't know that, I think Tito won that fight. DLH could have won it but he threw it away in the last few rounds.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Wire
                      I don't know that, I think Tito won that fight. DLH could have won it but he threw it away in the last few rounds.
                      I had money on that fight. I was shocked that Tito got the decision. But make no mistake, I collected my bread.....

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