Muhammad Ali- Was he the greatest heavyweight?

[RockyMarcianofan00]

i brought up carmine vingo to state that rocky didn't have trouble against tall guys with long reaches, and just jabs aren't going to win the fight rocky would just beat up on his body and move to his head
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[Heckler]

WOW it never said Rocky Was in shape what it said is he had to train hard to work off some weight in order for anyone to take it seriously when that was filmed he weighed 240 something pounds...had he been down to his normal 185 and younger he would of crippled ali prime or not and u saw what ali said "I can't believe how strong and how hard Rocky can hit," he said.

"Marciano was a lot harder to hit with a jab then he looked. I can feel how great Marciano must have been just from being in the ring with him when he was 46 years old. I can't even imagine what Rocky must have been like in his prime."

LOL, yes he would inflict some damage on Ali when he did manage to cut off the ring... he would cripple Ali? really like Foreman crippled Ali? Or maybe how Frazier crippled Ali? Or Shavers? Or Liston? Marciano never hit harder then any of these guys, he would have to cut off the ring in order to hit Ali... something he fail to do regulary... It wouldn't be an easy fight but if you can't see that Ali would win you really need to read up on your boxing my friend.... THE COMPUTER fight isn't relevant, Muhammad didn't have much respect for Mariciano, he didn't realise he could hit hard... thus the comments at the end, it wasn't him admitting that Marciano would defeat him... If you think the computer fight had any bearing on reality, your incredibly naieve.

[butterfly1964]

i brought up carmine vingo to state that rocky didn't have trouble against tall guys with long reaches, and just jabs aren't going to win the fight rocky would just beat up on his body and move to his head

ali had a strong midsection, so i don't imagine marciano winning the fight on body shots. marciano has inferior reach so i don't know how he's gonna get close enough to ali's body if ali is always dancing!

[Heckler]

i brought up carmine vingo to state that rocky didn't have trouble against tall guys with long reaches, and just jabs aren't going to win the fight rocky would just beat up on his body and move to his head

Its not the height or the reach, Its the fact that Marcianos footwork was too crude thus he wouldn't be able to cut him off and work the body and head... Alis comprehension of range was the best ever seen, he would control the range and pick marciano off.. When Marciano did get inside he would land some shots but Ali has proven he has the Jaw and durability to take the shots OF FOREMAN... marciano doesn't hit that hard... Ali would win this on points.

[Heckler]

Reading your posts this just gets worse... Ali can't imagine him in his prime, first thats a 'matter of speech' second that doesn't equate into: MARCIANO COULD BEAT ME, At his age his speed and his stamina may have diminished... but not his power. Let me guess, your senseless hardline views must mean YOUR ITALIAN.

[butterfly1964]

Reading your posts this just gets worse... Ali can't imagine him in his prime, first thats a 'matter of speech' second that doesn't equate into: MARCIANO COULD BEAT ME, At his age his speed and his stamina may have diminished... but not his power. Let me guess, your senseless hardline views must mean YOUR ITALIAN.

ha, ha. pretty good post.

[TuPrincipe]

Ali is made out to be some sort of God that could never be hit. The fact is that Rocky Marciano was one of the most vicious punchers ever. He had VICIOUS body punches, and he would of worked the body and TKO'D Ali once Ali dropped his gloves. Ali always had trouble with the swarming, slugger types, and Rocky was the best at swarming his opponent.

Ali had trouble with Frazier, but Rocky had a better chin, and a bigger punch.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

LOL, yes he would inflict some damage on Ali when he did manage to cut off the ring... he would cripple Ali? really like Foreman crippled Ali? Or maybe how Frazier crippled Ali? Or Shavers? Or Liston? Marciano never hit harder then any of these guys, he would have to cut off the ring in order to hit Ali... something he fail to do regulary... It wouldn't be an easy fight but if you can't see that Ali would win you really need to read up on your boxing my friend.... THE COMPUTER fight isn't relevant, Muhammad didn't have much respect for Mariciano, he didn't realise he could hit hard... thus the comments at the end, it wasn't him admitting that Marciano would defeat him... If you think the computer fight had any bearing on reality, your incredibly naieve.

ok first off Marciano hit harder then all those guys and the only any one ever questions is Foreman hitting harder then Marciano, 2nd, i did see the fight between foreman and ali, foreman lasted 5 rounds at the most (i also give ali alot of credit for the fight cause he didn't use his feet) Marciano could've lasted 12 rounds at least, and would of one because of his bone shattering strength, if the same thing happened to marciano that happened to foreman then marciano was smart enough to back off and let ali come out but just go back to beating on him just not against the ropes, and i really wasn't bringing up the comp fight itself just the whole marciano hitting ali

i never said it would be an easy fight for marciano and eventually marciano's bodyshots would do something to ali and its not like he would just keep hitting the midsection he switched alot
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[RockyMarcianofan00]

Ali is made out to be some sort of God that could never be hit. The fact is that Rocky Marciano was one of the most vicious punchers ever. He had VICIOUS body punches, and he would of worked the body and TKO'D Ali once Ali dropped his gloves. Ali always had trouble with the swarming, slugger types, and Rocky was the best at swarming his opponent.

Ali had trouble with Frazier, but Rocky had a better chin, and a bigger punch.

thank you, i really couldn't have put it better myself
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[RockyMarcianofan00]

Reading your posts this just gets worse... Ali can't imagine him in his prime, first thats a 'matter of speech' second that doesn't equate into: MARCIANO COULD BEAT ME, At his age his speed and his stamina may have diminished... but not his power. Let me guess, your senseless hardline views must mean YOUR ITALIAN.

ha nah man i'm irish but thats funny

i'm just a big fan of rocky
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