Muhammad Ali- Was he the greatest heavyweight?

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  • Ramamaiden
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    #181
    Originally posted by Dual Champs
    Ali and Louis are definitely 1-2. I rank Ali slightly higher because he beat the best set of opponents of any fighter, ever. And don't forget, Ali lost over 3 years of his prime. Imagine what we'd be saying about him if politics didn't rob the sport he loved from a full, uninterupted career. For speed, ring savy, chin and heart Ali had no match.

    That's just my opinion, but I'm right.
    i agree...3 years, and also his best years is something we will always regret

    btw, for me ali is the greatest heavywight, but i dont know if he was the best.
    but definitively on the top 3....without a doubt. i dont know but i think that a prime ali vs a prime lois, marciano, tyson, butterbean, etc.... he should win. well, thats what i think.

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    • BROOKLYN CESAR
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      #182
      Originally posted by BostonGuy
      I have recently read several books on some of Muhammad Ali's

      fights and have discovered that he won alot of controversial

      decisions over fighters like Ken Norton, Jimmy Young, Ernie

      Shavers that could have easily gone in their favor. Ali rose

      to occasion to beat great fighters like Foreman, Frazier, Liston.

      But he wasn't always consistent, so was he the greatest

      heavyweight of all time or was it the hype the he built up?
      I dont think he was as good Louis!!! IMO it was mostly hype!!!

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      • Jimmy The Gent
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        #183
        Joe Louis is the best heavyweight of all time then Ali, I've always rated Joe above Ali and will continue to do so

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        • realheavyhands
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          #184
          ali would of beat joe louis

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          • Derranged_
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            #185
            Hey, It's good to see that one of my old threads was bumped up; I created this thread in 2004!...

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            • THE REAL NINJA
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              #186
              Ali would box his ears off
              Louis never fought a skilled big man most of the giants he fought were brawlers with little to offer other then size and power.

              What would Louis do when he can't catch Ali and is being tagged with jabs and powerful over hand rights, round after round ?

              Louis is known for having good speed, good boxing skills, a good chin, and great power.

              Ali had all of this other then great power but was better in each other category cept for maybe tech boxing skill.

              As far as power Ali was no Joe Louis but most of his fights were in fact knock outs , thing is he was so into winning the fight in the round he called he would carry some fights too long and it made it seem that he had little power .

              Also if Ali was fighting with the smaller gloves of Joe Louis's era he may have been more of a puncher .

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              • MBL
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                #187
                Everyone who said Tyson should be killed with a hammer

                Ali the Greatest ever no doubt, most of you agree though

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                • THE REAL NINJA
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by MBL
                  Everyone who said Tyson should be killed with a hammer

                  Ali the Greatest ever no doubt, most of you agree though
                  Tyson is in my top 10 but there is no way he is the best ever .
                  During his prime i think he would have gave anyone ANYONE a hell of a challenge and maybe won 1 out of 3 with the likes of Ali but with his short prime years and lack of other great prime opponents, he left to much unknown.

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                  • Panamaniac
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by realheavyhands
                    ali would of beat joe louis
                    Yes, but only if he could.

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                    • werewolf
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by BostonGuy
                      Hey, It's good to see that one of my old threads was bumped up; I created this thread in 2004!...

                      Interesting!

                      As for Clay-Ali being the "greatest" - yeah, he was the greatest - the greatest black ******-us media hype job, that is!




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