My simple questions for Kessler fans aka Calzaghe fans

[hookoutofhell]

The one thing I very disagrees with you rating Kessler is that you think he would beat Pavlik,Dawson,Taylor and Hopkins because the way he dominated weak opponents,. I don?t rate a fighter at all until he beats a fighter with a great calibre not on his boxing ability. Kessler is unproven until he fights a good fighter and beats that he a good fighter but now he is good at most none higher. The reason I think Hopkins was Calzaghe best win is because Hopkins did stop Winky unbeaten run and Tarver also. He came into the fight ranked #4 on the P4P table and he is a very smart fighter and can make anyone look bad. He was even able to hurt Calzaghe and drop him and there is argument that Hopkins won, but my opinion Calzaghe won the fight. It?s like Tyson let?s not included Spinks. If that was the case his best win would be over Holmes a fighter who style is suited for Tyson and was dominating until the KO but Calzaghe won the fight due to his stamina. Tyson?s best win was not Bruno a prime champion fighter but Holmes a past his prime fighter just like how Hopkins style can handle Calzaghe but not Kesslers.

do you realize just how you sound when you say that i rate a fighter until he fights a good fighter and beats him. what are you incapable of looking beyond boxrec and resumes? are you unable to analyse a fighters style his ability, his strength's and flaws?

you make some good points after that - but imo it isn't hard to look at a fighter and see how accomplished he is or how he would fight against other opponents.
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[UKDan]

Kessler IMO is a decent boxer and but his style is too basic and not P4P material in my eyes. Calzaghe easily exposed his flaws and how a smart fighter will easily unravel his weakness. For a young prime fighter to been exposed just after 4 rounds and have no answer all for Calzaghe shows he isn’t that good. Hopkins did hurt Calzaghe and he said that himself but Kessler never had him hurt/.

His competition is atrocious seriously, Mundine. Mundine is the guy who got knocked out by Ottke. Mundien is the guy who fights bum and that is no lies and making Crazy Kim come from light heavyweight to middle to fight him. Mudnine gave Kessler a challenge and he caught him numerous times with his speed. His competition is weak the SMW division is very weak. Kessler has to options move to light heavy or middle weight and try to get a good fight but he won’t


Tayloy Pavlik Dawson Hopkins would deal with him no problems and I am not saying that because they are American

he said kessler hurt him with that right hand in the fourth...he openly admitted it!

[abadger]

The one thing I very disagrees with you rating Kessler is that you think he would beat Pavlik,Dawson,Taylor and Hopkins because the way he dominated weak opponents,. I don’t rate a fighter at all until he beats a fighter with a great calibre not on his boxing ability. Kessler is unproven until he fights a good fighter and beats that he a good fighter but now he is good at most none higher. The reason I think Hopkins was Calzaghe best win is because Hopkins did stop Winky unbeaten run and Tarver also. He came into the fight ranked #4 on the P4P table and he is a very smart fighter and can make anyone look bad. He was even able to hurt Calzaghe and drop him and there is argument that Hopkins won, but my opinion Calzaghe won the fight. It’s like Tyson let’s not included Spinks. If that was the case his best win would be over Holmes a fighter who style is suited for Tyson and was dominating until the KO but Calzaghe won the fight due to his stamina. Tyson’s best win was not Bruno a prime champion fighter but Holmes a past his prime fighter just like how Hopkins style can handle Calzaghe but not Kesslers.

Its not so much the fact that Kessler beat those guys, or even that he did it in dominant fashion that leads people like me to rate him highly, its really the way he boxes, he seems to have a lot of potential. He is very fast, powerful and makes few mistakes. I admit 100% that he hasn't done so yet, but based on his style and talent my opinion is that were he to face those guys you mention he would probably beat them. I might be very wrong about that. That's not the same thing as saying he's achieved more, had a better career or anything like that, its more like a prediction about Kessler's future. Look at it like this, based on records and past achievements, you pick the Americans to beat him, based on style matchup and skills, I pick Kessler. Who knows who's right? Its just one of things about being a boxing fan I guess, sometimes we do disagree.

On the Calzaghe best win thing, its a similar story. I understand completely why you or anyone think Hopkins is his best win, on paper it really is. Remember though that for Calzaghe fans, who actually want to see Joe perform well, the Kessler fight was great. Calzaghe looked brilliant and it proved he was the best in his division, a division some of us had been watching him box in for years. That fight was the reason that Joe got the Hopkins fight in the first place, so its always going to be popular with Calzaghe fans. The Hopkins fight was quite different, Joe looked pretty crap in it to be honest and most fans of his had been expecting a better performance, its hard to say a fight is your favourite's best win if he actually let you down a bit. Like I say, its really just a matter of opinion, no-ones wrong, no-ones right it depends on what the observer, you or me, is looking for. Performance or name, name or performance its up to the individual really, we disagree, but at least we have something to talk about.