My simple questions for Kessler fans aka Calzaghe fans

[ALT-Assassin]

Whilst none of them are bums you would hardly call his resume stacked would you? Andrade is a tough but not even a semi-top guy, Beyer was very protected throughout his entire career and, IMO, is verging on bum status, Siaca is probably the best of the bunch but even he isn't close to a top fighter. I know Kessler's impressiveness in several of these performances and the fact that he held two of the belts helps to lift his status to an extent, his resume, as is stands, is currently a massive stumbling block. It is my fear that he is going to piss away his prime fighting more guys like Sartison and never allow himself to reach his true potential. I hope this does not eventuate though.

Now is when you are going to hear"it is Americas fault,they won't allow Kessler any exposure or fights" Even tho he had a chance to fight Miranda and get US exposure after his fight with Cazaghe that was aired on HBO.The same station that showed his fight with Andrade."it is becuase he is a Euro bum"

[daggum]

what you talkin aboot eh. kessler just beat the UNDEFEATED!!! sartisson. oh my god hes undefeated just like calzaghe and kessler beat him(kessler goat?). now hes taking on the indestructable haussler. give him some props.

[Flawless.]

Kessler beat Mundine. Now Calzaghe fans are calling Mundine a great fighter as well

[abadger]

Siaca
Mundine

Do you rate these guys??

Your two replies to my post may be one of the biggest self ownings I have seen. Did you stop? Did you think? No, you just spewed out the same whining ****** crap you always do.

In answer to your question though, rate them as what? As 'great' boxers definitely not, but good ones, definitely. Siaca has basically been one of the better second-tier SMW fighters for a long time, the kind that's definitely good enough to fight for world titles, but usually not to win them, although he did eventually manage this with the ****ty WBA belt. That made him one of the better guys in the division, and thats why Kessler fought him, understand? Do you imagine that your favourite boxer (who is this by the way, do you even have one?) spent his career blasting out legend after legend, I guarantee you he didn't.

As for Mundine, its interesting that you should pull him up as one of Kessler's two worst titlefights, in fact he is actually one of the better ones. I'm guessing you did this because of the bad rep for fighting nobodies that he has today? Well back then he was regarded as a pretty good SMW boxer. Have you seen his handspeed, or how tough he can be. Ever even seen him fight? Mundine gave Kessler what was his toughest fight pre-Calzaghe and had you seen it, there is no way you would say Mundine was a bum. Oh yeah, and it was Mundine that the 'bum' Siaca beat for the WBA title.

So, get your head out of your arse. Like I said before, no-one on Kessler's resume is a 'great' but all of them were absolutely credible opponents. Go check out the records of Jones, Hopkins, Toney et al on boxrec and notice how many names you don't actually know. Fighting and beating the other guys in your division is what boxers do, and the guys that win get the glory and the guys that lose fade away. Kessler was the man that won, but that doesn't mean his opponents didn't have the right to be there, they did. This is boxing, realise it.

[abadger]

Whilst none of them are bums you would hardly call his resume stacked would you? Andrade is a tough but not even a semi-top guy, Beyer was very protected throughout his entire career and, IMO, is verging on bum status, Siaca is probably the best of the bunch but even he isn't close to a top fighter. I know Kessler's impressiveness in several of these performances and the fact that he held two of the belts helps to lift his status to an extent, his resume, as is stands, is currently a massive stumbling block. It is my fear that he is going to piss away his prime fighting more guys like Sartison and never allow himself to reach his true potential. I hope this does not eventuate though.

This post i agree with 100%. Kessler's resume is not stacked and anyone who thinks that that is what I have been arguing here is wrong. I am sick and tired of dumb fly-by-nights describing every boxer who is not an HBO US name as a 'bum'. It is ****ing ridiculous. As you say none of those guys were bums, and beating what was a solid though not spectacular list of SMW boxers in a short space of time and in impressive style was what, justifiably elevated Kessler to the fringes of the P4P list. It really isn't rocket science is it?

[dstew]

Instead of coming back with some lame, hate filled reply, try taking a moment, thinking and realise that everything I've said to you is true. That way you might actually learn to enjoy the sport of boxing for its own sake, rather than, as far as I can see, deriving your only pleasure from it by the cheap thrill you appear to get from slating fighters you don't like and trying to annoy real boxing fans.

You are quickly becoming the most arrogant poster on this forum; this isn't the first time you've been so presumptuous to condescendingly "suggest" that another poster "think" about their response and then they will "realize" as though through some divine intervention that what you've said is true. Not to mention trying to pass yourself off as a real boxing fan while implying that everyone who disagrees with you doesn't understand or appreciate the sport.

[abadger]

You are quickly becoming the most arrogant poster on this forum; this isn't the first time you've been so presumptuous to condescendingly "suggest" that another poster "think" about their response and then they will "realize" as though through some divine intervention that what you've said is true.

I have no problem talking down to morons.

[fightingfigs]

Yea I guess maybe because he went 12 rounds with Slappy and it went back and forth in a pretty good fight.

Thats the reason why alot of Calzaghe fans percieve kessler as such an Amazing fighter.

[fightingfigs]

Abadger your avatar is pretty funny

[abadger]

Abadger your avatar is pretty funny

It is the best.