I Didnt See The Same Fight As Everyone Else

[DLT]

Why do Cotto fans keep comparing what he did to Floyd? Im a Floyd fan and even I admit that at times he has got on a bike when he's fought huge strong guys but the difference is that Floyd is a pure boxer fighting guys much bigger then him on a regular basis. Cotto is not a pure boxer. Cotto has alot of good boxing skill but dont act like you ever thought anyone could make Cotto move like Margarito did. I always ask, what if Margarito did that in a fight? Margarito might would do the same thing that Floyd has done in some fights but to me its ten times worst because that is not Margarito's style at all. its the same for Cotto.

Cotto boxes more then Margarito but he definatly hasnt moved like he did in that Margarito fights in all of his other bouts combined. Thats just like comparing Cotto to Spinks. its not the same because Spinks is a boxer and mover anyway. Sometimes he is going to get on his bike against a bigger stronger guy but thats somewhat his style anyway. If a brawler did it then he looks like a punk. What if Tyson did that? This was not like Hopkins against Tito either. This was flat out moving out of desperation. Cotto has boxed before and boxed well but he didnt move nearly as much and as fast as he did against Margarito. Its also funny how some guys say that Im a Cotto hater and then the others say Im a Margarito hater. Which one is it? Im not dissin Cotto as much as I am dissing the media & fans. Cotto did what he did. Im not mad at that at all. He pretty much had to do it to stop from getting killed. Im just talking about the fact that people made it sound like he was dominating, outclassing, and clowing Margarito in the 1st half when that was clearly not the case

[Pullcounter]

From the way the media and alot of fans on here talked, I expected to pretty much see Cotto destroying Margarito in the first half of the fight. Then when I watched it, I was totally shocked by what I saw. I was saying to myself "is this the same fight where they said that Cotto was outclassing Margarito early on"? I felt that Margarito was winning just as many rounds as Cotto, if not more. On top of that, I felt from the very 1st second of the fight that Margarito was in complete control. I cant believe that some people felf that Cotto could win by a "wide" UD after 6 rounds. Even at the end of round 1 and definatly by round 2, I felt that Cotto had absolutely no chance of winning that fight. I also felt that Cotto himself felt that way. You could see it on his face when he went to the corner after round 2. He had a look on his face like "what have I gotten myself into"?

The biggest thing that I felt was that even the rounds that Cotto won, were not really winning rounds. By that I mean that it seemed like he won the round by scoring shots out of despiration but Margarito was always clearly in control. You know what Im saying? Its like Cotto may have won a round where he moved non stop and then just fired off a combo because he had to keep Margarito off him, and then moved again instantly but in a desperate type of way. Even when he won a round he was nowhere near in control. I was also shocked of the fact that Margarito made Cotto look like a little boy. Cotto has been so huge compared to his opponents and he looks twice as big as Floyd but he looked like Margarito's son in the ring. For some reason it looked like Cotto was smaller then normal and Margarito was way bigger then normal. I know thats not the case but thats how it looked.

I also stand by what I said about Margarito's chin. I think it is good but I still dont think that you saw it fully tested in these 2 fights because of the fact that both Cotto & Cintron were always going backwards. Those guys hit super hard but they really get there full power when there walking you down and stepping into all of there punches. Its like there digging into you. Basically just like what Margarito is doing to them, you feel me? Its a different kind of punch. Margarito was stepping into Cotto and digging into his body or driving into Cotto over the top. Cotto & Cintron were always throwing off there heels and were just set a few times but they never got to step into there punch and dig shots because of Margarito's pressure and there obvious fear. Still, I couldnt believe the commentators saying how they felt that Cotto was clearly dominating a round. He never ever even came close to doing that. I also felt that his boxing skills were so overrated in that fight. Not from the normal point of boxing but from the point that he really wasnt boxing. He was fighting out of desperation and then moving for his life. He wasnt skillfuly trying to do anything special. It was him just trying to do what he had to do to keep Margarito off of him who I felt was in full control from the very 1st bell. He was never even close to being outclassed

you must have been ignoring how cotto was landing the better more flush shots that were snapping margarito's head back so much it made margarito look like a bobble head doll.

[Horus]

man what you typed sure sounds exciting. just playing it in my head, it sounds like a hell of a fight.

but.......

why were the fans booing? in Floyd's hometown? Why werent any people booing Cotto? i mean, these are the fans that want excitement and they were standing and applauding the end of each round? i dont understand how that could happen if Cotto was actually running is that not right? you mean to tell me that ALL of a sudden, latino fans gained respect for the most technical aspect of the sport?

I understand why Floyd developed that defensive style since he moved up to welterweight. it would be ridiculously ****** for him to stay in front and just exchange when he really doesn't have to. Of course, the majority of casual fans aren't going to like it and even though Professional Boxers DO owe fans SOME kind of excitement because they wouldn't be on that level, on that stage without the money that fans pay for to see excitement, at the end of the day, a fighter only has his finances and his family to look out for him.

But to start crying and claiming that Cotto was "running" just because you (and im not saying you Horus but in general) were offended and caught feelings because your favorite fighter was called a runner purposely neglecting that Cotto was trying to hurt Margarito (as evident by Margo's face) and also the fact that Cotto was "trading bombs" as most articles on the fight describe is pretty ridiculous.

Floyd is a pure boxer. Cotto is a boxer/puncher. Floyd purely boxed against Baldomir and De La Hoya in which resulted in what mostly everyone in the industry from writers, hardcore fans and casuals described as "boring fights". Cotto boxed and punched against Margarito which resulted in what mostly everyone in the industry from writers, hardcore fans and casuals described as "a fight for the ages", "a fight worth the money", "a certified FOTY candidate if not FOTY".

Now how would that even be able to be accomplished in a fight where ONE of the fighters was running the whole fight?

Jesus loves all of you.

25,

Please if you say if cotto ran against Margarito then Floyd was on a Motorcycle...

Then Please Answer these Question:

When Did Cotto Stop Running and decided to fight in the Pocket.?
When Did Cotto Stop Running and decided to fight Margarito in the middle of the ring?
When did Cotto Stop Running and decided to walk down margarito?
When did Cotto Stop Running and decided to go to margarito's body?

Because Floyd did all of that against Baldomir.




NAME ONE ROUND THAT COTTO DID ANY OF THIS...

So the question is?
Is Miguel Cotto a runner because he back peddle the whole night..!
without doing anything close to what Mayweather did to Baldomir

[machotime]

You didn't see the same fight as everyone else because your either

A)Biased
B)Have a hate for Cotto
C)Don't know how to score fights

Everyone had it around even yet for some reason you see it a complete different way. I stopped reading after a few sentences because its people that let hate get in the way of calling a fair fight. 5/5 thru 10 round or 6/4 cotto thru 10. No if ands or butts.

DLT hates Puerto Ricans.

[DanielTurcotte3]

It wasnt a shot its was multiple shots.

Ive watched the fight numerous times and had Cotto up by 2 rounds each time

Agreed!!!!!

[El Dominicano]

Ahh ****....Ill rewrite what I def. had it scored when I get to my house........I believe tho I had Jmm winning by one or 2 points. I know I socred the first one for Pac for a fact, but even still I only had it 114-113 in that fight for Pac......I think in that fight it was allll ring generalship and clean punching by JMM, despite the KD, which was probably the most effective punch of the night. JMM continued to land the crisper punches that really seemed to hurt Pac moreso then Pac's one punch KD....

Again Ill PM yah or just send it in your profile the exact score I had round by round..........



And also mind you this, as close as I scored that 2nd fight, I really thought that JMM was really dominating the action for the most part....

Ok, want me to send you how I scored it?

[My Name Is...]

hahahahaha.... the biased is evident.

When a fighter lands over 40% of 700 punches, Im pretty sure its not running.

If you think that Cotto not landing power shots, you need to watch the fight again, he had Margs head whipping in every direction.

Because they were accurate shots. But real KO power or break your opponent down kind of power? No. Tell me this, how can he get KO or breakdown your opponent down power when his feet arent set, shoulders are squared up (because he was against the ropes), and cant turn your hips to get power and leverage? I aint biased, I just go by what I see. No one saw the right hooks in the first. They see the fast accurate shots, instead of the chingon body shots that Margs was landing. How ever, Macho Camacho is your uncle and Jr. is your cuz, so you are obviously PR. You are more biased than I am. I acknowledge that Cotto did do some good things. You seem to think that Margs got lucky some how. The better all around fighter won. What Margs lacks in Boxing skills he makes up with his Intangibles, Heart, Grit, Determination, strength, and Power.

[Horus]

If you indicating that because PBF did that against the worst champion of our times, Cotto should have been able to do it against Margarito then you are lost.

I cant quote the rounds right now, but Cotto did stand with Margarito at times and EXCHANGE shot for shot... that was one of his mistakes. He did not go to the body, and he stated that he tried to do so... I believe the fighter. If anyone goes to the body its Cotto, and if he said that he didnt have the opportunity, I belive him.

and BTW, PBF would not be able to "walk Margarito down".... if you are indicating that.

Now, answer my question, WHY ARE YOU COMPARING BALDOMIR TO MARGARITO????

Carlos Manuel Baldomir :
World Boxing Hall of Fame "Fighter of the Year" 2006
WBC Champion
WBA Champion
IBF Champion
Last Linear Champion Before Mayweather

Beat: The Same Clottey Margarito Beat. And Beat Judah which is a better win than Cintron.

Now Accomplish Wise Baldomir has Accomplish More than Margarito.

Just listen too what the Writer calls Baldomir in the first Minute of the video



Overall Margarito is better than baldomir IMO. but Overall Baldomir has accomplish more than Margarito.
So a case can be made that Baldomir is better than Margarito

[2501 v2.0]

lmao @ people saying Cotto was potshotting or only hitting once and moving away. thats when you know that these people are just ****ing crybabies and haters. be real with it motha****as or get the **** out.

[machotime]

Floyd stood up to the much bigger and strong fighter Baldy. Cotto never stood up to Margarito and ran.

Again a ****** ****er that is comparing BALDOMIR to MARGARITO.

BALDOMIR=the worst champion of all time.

Baldomir has like 11 KOs in 61 fights! hahahaha nice comparison buddy