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  • MikeBrew328
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    #81
    I completely agree with the thread starter about Margarito's chin.......Cotto really didn't check it with leverage. Heck, Williams was moving back too. His physical size intimidates opponents and makes them move back... His chin is deffinitely good but he hasn't really been tested.

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    • Da Hammer
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      #82
      Originally posted by DLT
      From the way the media and alot of fans on here talked, I expected to pretty much see Cotto destroying Margarito in the first half of the fight. Then when I watched it, I was totally shocked by what I saw. I was saying to myself "is this the same fight where they said that Cotto was outclassing Margarito early on"? I felt that Margarito was winning just as many rounds as Cotto, if not more. On top of that, I felt from the very 1st second of the fight that Margarito was in complete control. I cant believe that some people felf that Cotto could win by a "wide" UD after 6 rounds. Even at the end of round 1 and definatly by round 2, I felt that Cotto had absolutely no chance of winning that fight. I also felt that Cotto himself felt that way. You could see it on his face when he went to the corner after round 2. He had a look on his face like "what have I gotten myself into"?

      The biggest thing that I felt was that even the rounds that Cotto won, were not really winning rounds. By that I mean that it seemed like he won the round by scoring shots out of despiration but Margarito was always clearly in control. You know what Im saying? Its like Cotto may have won a round where he moved non stop and then just fired off a combo because he had to keep Margarito off him, and then moved again instantly but in a desperate type of way. Even when he won a round he was nowhere near in control. I was also shocked of the fact that Margarito made Cotto look like a little boy. Cotto has been so huge compared to his opponents and he looks twice as big as Floyd but he looked like Margarito's son in the ring. For some reason it looked like Cotto was smaller then normal and Margarito was way bigger then normal. I know thats not the case but thats how it looked.

      I also stand by what I said about Margarito's chin. I think it is good but I still dont think that you saw it fully tested in these 2 fights because of the fact that both Cotto & Cintron were always going backwards. Those guys hit super hard but they really get there full power when there walking you down and stepping into all of there punches. Its like there digging into you. Basically just like what Margarito is doing to them, you feel me? Its a different kind of punch. Margarito was stepping into Cotto and digging into his body or driving into Cotto over the top. Cotto & Cintron were always throwing off there heels and were just set a few times but they never got to step into there punch and dig shots because of Margarito's pressure and there obvious fear. Still, I couldnt believe the commentators saying how they felt that Cotto was clearly dominating a round. He never ever even came close to doing that. I also felt that his boxing skills were so overrated in that fight. Not from the normal point of boxing but from the point that he really wasnt boxing. He was fighting out of desperation and then moving for his life. He wasnt skillfuly trying to do anything special. It was him just trying to do what he had to do to keep Margarito off of him who I felt was in full control from the very 1st bell. He was never even close to being outclassed
      Good post and we saw the same fight! Yes Cotto had the "cleaner punches" but not only was margarito controlling the pace but he was weakending cotto every round with his great body punching. after each passing round you saw Margarito getting better and stronger like he usually does while Cotto clearly was like WTF and he wanted the fight to end! its hard to win a fight when you doubt that you can hurt your opponent and he clearly never hurt margarito. margarito a couple of times just plain smiled at Cotto after being hit and jogged right back up to cotto and started his onslaught again. margarito won a couple early rounds and then completely dominated the late rounds! Cotto never dominated at any point the fight!

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      • machotime
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        #83
        Originally posted by HTownTexan
        I am not saying that he won most of them, but what I am saying is that Cotto was not DOMINATING the fight. I had it 6-4 Margs. When I say this people say that I am biased, but I just dont see Cotto dominating.
        Well I had it 6-4 Cotto. Marg landed most of his shots towards the end of the fight. He did dominate round 2, 7, 8 or 9 (??cant remember??) and 10, but 1,3,4,5,6, and 8 or 9 (??cant remember??) were dominated by Cotto.

        And again if you call throwing 70 punches per round and landing over 40% of them "running", im not really sure what to tell you.

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        • Kball15
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          #84
          Originally posted by HTownTexan
          This shows your boxing knowledge. It is common knowledge that the only guys that beat Margs all stood their and fought with him toe to toe. Santos, P Williams, and even earlier in his career. You can stop posting now.

          EDIT: Oh yeah, Clottey stood in front of Margs and did pretty good too.
          omg u have no idea what ur talking about.

          Williams Walked down Margarito?! I MUST have missed that.

          And Cotto, THE NATURALLY SMALLER MAN, would have to be an IDIOT to try and walk down or back up Antonio Margarito, the MUCH BIGGER and Naturally Stronger man. Santos happens to be even bigger then Margarito, and is extremely strong. Not to mention, the fight was fought at 154 pounds.

          Do some ****in research before u call someone an idiot.

          You'd have to be an idiot to even try something like walking down Margarito when you're smaller and weaker. Cotto would have been almost certainly stopped sooner.

          So please, stop posting here until you actually know something about strategy and what fighters have to do to win.

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          • Scott9945
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            #85
            Originally posted by MikeBrew328
            I completely agree with the thread starter about Margarito's chin.......Cotto really didn't check it with leverage. Heck, Williams was moving back too. His physical size intimidates opponents and makes them move back... His chin is deffinitely good but he hasn't really been tested.

            Margarito's chin easily stood up to Cotto, Clottey, Williams, and Cintron (twice). I can't believe anyone would say that his chin hasn't been tested. Who does he have to fight to convince you?

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