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  • 2501 v2.0
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    #11
    Cotto WAS outboxing Margarito for the first half of the fight and if anyone wants to claim that he was running, then Floyd was on motorcycle against Baldomir and De La Hoya because Cotto was outlanding Margarito more efficiently in those first 4-5 rounds. I even have the video footage to prove it as im working on the high lights of the fight as we speak.

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    • DanielTurcotte3
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      #12
      Originally posted by 2501 v2.0
      Cotto WAS outboxing Margarito for the first half of the fight and if anyone wants to claim that he was running, then Floyd was on motorcycle against Baldomir and De La Hoya because Cotto was outlanding Margarito more efficiently in those first 4-5 rounds. I even have the video footage to prove it as im working on the high lights of the fight as we speak.
      Post emm up please when ya have it finished...Thank you sir!

      Yeah and see I think that what Floyd did to Baldomir was as dominant a performance as we'll see when it comes to things like Ring Generalship and Clean Effective Punching. People say he was on his high horse the entire night, and well yes maybe in some instances, but the name of the game is to get the job done, and well quite frankly Floyd fought a pictyure perfect fight that night. Plus anytime you win 120-108, I think that you have to consider that a Dominating performance!

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      • The Gully Gad
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        #13
        I wouldnt say Cotto was running in the first half
        But he was dam sure on his bike in the second half..
        At least floyd will backpeddle and catch u
        Cotto just well backpeddled

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        • Hard Dick
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          #14
          I didn't see the same fight either or listenned to HBO commentators, it was never one sided for cotto early on.

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          • Kball15
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            #15
            first of all, all of what u said could be shrunken down to like 3 sentences. u write way to ****in much.

            And 2nd of all, Cotto was CLEARLY winning the early rounds, but You definetly that feeling that the momentum was always with Margarito. Thats probably what ur going on. Cause there's no way Margarito won nearly as many rounds as Cotto did in the first 6, and Cotto was borderline outclassing Margarito at many different moments. Especially round 5

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            • machotime
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              #16
              Originally posted by DanielTurcotte3
              I might have been that..... for me as well with Cotto winning round 8 and 9, over 8 for Cotto, 9 for Marg, Ill hafta look!
              You might be right... either 8 or 9 was clearly Cotto's the other of the two was a close round.

              And the reply above with the vomit was intended towards DLT. He has a pretty avid and apparent dislike for PR fighters.

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              • DanielTurcotte3
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                #17
                Originally posted by Hard Dick
                I didn't see the same fight either or listenned to HBO commentators, it was never one sided for cotto early on.
                Ive scored the fight 3 times now. 2 times with the Mute on, and once with the commentating on. Believe it or not, I scored the fight the exact same way for the most part, with again the 2nd round flip flopping. One of the most important aspect of scoring a fight is, When its live...Watch it, dont try to score it, but then watch it again, w/o the commentary, and you will see a different fight a lot of the time. The thing is, and Ive done this with so many fights, I have a 3 subject notebook full of fights that Ive scored in detail, is that after you score it, throw it away, dont look at it, then score it again, put this one away, and after scoring it once more, compare and contrast how you scored the fight. I usaully write down about 2-3 sentences after each round, on y so and so won, how its panning out and what to expect from the fighter coming up in the next few rounds. The more you score fights, the less you will listen and take into account what the commentators are actually saying. Its almost like you totally block it out ya know?!?!

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                • 2501 v2.0
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DanielTurcotte3
                  Post emm up please when ya have it finished...Thank you sir!

                  Yeah and see I think that what Floyd did to Baldomir was as dominant a performance as we'll see when it comes to things like Ring Generalship and Clean Effective Punching. People say he was on his high horse the entire night, and well yes maybe in some instances, but the name of the game is to get the job done, and well quite frankly Floyd fought a pictyure perfect fight that night. Plus anytime you win 120-108, I think that you have to consider that a Dominating performance!
                  the thing is, if Cotto would have continued what he was doing in the first 4-5 rounds for the whole fight, then it would had been an incredible feat for someone who wasnt considered a GREAT boxer (not fighter but in technical ability) because Cotto was landing combinations, not potshots, but power combinations causing Margo to pause and then Cotto would maneuver out the way. I just cant agree with anyone saying that THAT was running. Cotto BEGAN to run as soon as those body shots were landing and then his output began to decrease in those pockets but even at that point he would still exchange.

                  it is my opinion that his stamina is what caused him to lose this fight. I dont think he had enough gas to keep moving and circling which is why he would hang on the ropes and trade with someone who couldnt be hurt but could definitely hurt him.

                  Now, is this something he's going to be able to improve on? Is Cotto going to be able to work on his endurance and stamina because if he isnt, I dont see how he would be able to go through that again and not end up with the same result.

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                  • DanielTurcotte3
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kball15
                    first of all, all of what u said could be shrunken down to like 3 sentences. u write way to ****in much.

                    And 2nd of all, Cotto was CLEARLY winning the early rounds, but You definetly that feeling that the momentum was always with Margarito. Thats probably what ur going on. Cause there's no way Margarito won nearly as many rounds as Cotto did in the first 6, and Cotto was borderline outclassing Margarito at many different moments. Especially round 5
                    Apology for the long windedness of my posts, I will continue to work on that as I know it is hard to read a lot of writing no matter what the case may be.

                    Its hard for me to stop once I get goin buddy, sorry!!

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                    • STEELHEAD
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      From the way the media and alot of fans on here talked, I expected to pretty much see Cotto destroying Margarito in the first half of the fight. Then when I watched it, I was totally shocked by what I saw. I was saying to myself "is this the same fight where they said that Cotto was outclassing Margarito early on"? I felt that Margarito was winning just as many rounds as Cotto, if not more. On top of that, I felt from the very 1st second of the fight that Margarito was in complete control. I cant believe that some people felf that Cotto could win by a "wide" UD after 6 rounds. Even at the end of round 1 and definatly by round 2, I felt that Cotto had absolutely no chance of winning that fight. I also felt that Cotto himself felt that way. You could see it on his face when he went to the corner after round 2. He had a look on his face like "what have I gotten myself into"?

                      The biggest thing that I felt was that even the rounds that Cotto won, were not really winning rounds. By that I mean that it seemed like he won the round by scoring shots out of despiration but Margarito was always clearly in control. You know what Im saying? Its like Cotto may have won a round where he moved non stop and then just fired off a combo because he had to keep Margarito off him, and then moved again instantly but in a desperate type of way. Even when he won a round he was nowhere near in control. I was also shocked of the fact that Margarito made Cotto look like a little boy. Cotto has been so huge compared to his opponents and he looks twice as big as Floyd but he looked like Margarito's son in the ring. For some reason it looked like Cotto was smaller then normal and Margarito was way bigger then normal. I know thats not the case but thats how it looked.

                      I also stand by what I said about Margarito's chin. I think it is good but I still dont think that you saw it fully tested in these 2 fights because of the fact that both Cotto & Cintron were always going backwards. Those guys hit super hard but they really get there full power when there walking you down and stepping into all of there punches. Its like there digging into you. Basically just like what Margarito is doing to them, you feel me? Its a different kind of punch. Margarito was stepping into Cotto and digging into his body or driving into Cotto over the top. Cotto & Cintron were always throwing off there heels and were just set a few times but they never got to step into there punch and dig shots because of Margarito's pressure and there obvious fear. Still, I couldnt believe the commentators saying how they felt that Cotto was clearly dominating a round. He never ever even came close to doing that. I also felt that his boxing skills were so overrated in that fight. Not from the normal point of boxing but from the point that he really wasnt boxing. He was fighting out of desperation and then moving for his life. He wasnt skillfuly trying to do anything special. It was him just trying to do what he had to do to keep Margarito off of him who I felt was in full control from the very 1st bell. He was never even close to being outclassed
                      it had all to do with lampley announcing! it was pathetic.
                      lampley was crying towards the end.
                      ****wad must of lost a bundle on cotto!

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