Jermain Taylor should fight this man, not Lacy.

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  • Mr. Ryan
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    #41
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Thats the double standard that exists.

    Froch wants to fight the big names but the big names are all asking which big names he's beaten.

    Its a viscious circle.

    He looks set to fight Pascal but is that gonna grab the attention of the big names?
    Pascal is a decent fighter, he's undefeated and ranked highly. It isn't a double standard when you have to deal with the economics of the situation. Lacy is a safer, more lucrative fight. Yeah, he almost didn't win his last fight, but that just makes it more attractive for Taylor.

    Look at it from this perspective, Taylor's target demographic is the American public, and which fights reaches that audience better, Froch, who is a low reward fighter at this point since he hasn't won a belt, or Lacy, a former American Olympian who is among the more recognizable faces in American boxing?

    The fact that Lacy hasn't looked good lately and that discussions have been ongoing for the better part of a year only makes it a more realistic possibility than a guy who hasn't fought in America before.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #42
      Originally posted by Steve Stifler
      Pascal is a decent fighter, he's undefeated and ranked highly. It isn't a double standard when you have to deal with the economics of the situation. Lacy is a safer, more lucrative fight. Yeah, he almost didn't win his last fight, but that just makes it more attractive for Taylor.

      Look at it from this perspective, Taylor's target demographic is the American public, and which fights reaches that audience better, Froch, who is a low reward fighter at this point since he hasn't won a belt, or Lacy, a former American Olympian who is among the more recognizable faces in American boxing?

      The fact that Lacy hasn't looked good lately and that discussions have been ongoing for the better part of a year only makes it a more realistic possibility than a guy who hasn't fought in America before.
      You're telling me **** I already know. Taylor and Di Bella openly admitted that they're taking an easier fight for more money.

      That doesnt mean its a credible route for a fighter to take.........which is my point.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        You're telling me **** I already know. Taylor and Di Bella openly admitted that they're taking an easier fight for more money.

        That doesnt mean its a credible route for a fighter to take.........which is my point.
        I don't think it's not credible, since Lacy is ranked ahead of Froch by The Ring. Also, you have to gauge TV support, and since Taylor is an HBO fighter I'm sure they'd rather see him fight Lacy rather than Froch.

        Also, people don't know who Froch is so I don't see anyone but Froch fans crying bloody murder about the situation. Also, we don't really know any of the specifics of any offers since we aren't in the inner circle there.

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        • KingTito
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          #44
          I gotta go with Taylor to beat Froch. I have a feeling Taylor has a lot more to accomplish and will make the right adjustments and skyrocket. I dunno, maybe wishful thinking.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Steve Stifler
            I don't think it's not credible, since Lacy is ranked ahead of Froch by The Ring. Also, you have to gauge TV support, and since Taylor is an HBO fighter I'm sure they'd rather see him fight Lacy rather than Froch.

            Also, people don't know who Froch is so I don't see anyone but Froch fans crying bloody murder about the situation. Also, we don't really know any of the specifics of any offers since we aren't in the inner circle there.
            You're talking from the point of view of a business man or a promoter and not of a fight fan.

            Im a fight fan and I wanna see the best fights out there. Taylor vs Lacy is a piss take of a fight. Lacy had his soul taken by Calzaghe and has looked awful ever since.

            Froch is a fresh, undefeated fighter with KO power who's worked his way to a title shot. Taylor is a big name who needs a big fight with meaning.

            From a fans point of view, theres no contest over which fight is more credible.

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            • Drunk Punch
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              #46
              Taylor is a different class altogether, I would give Froch little if any chance at all.

              I really want to see Froch fight a genuine world class fighter, just so that we have something tangible to measure him against.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                You're talking from the point of view of a business man or a promoter and not of a fight fan.

                Im a fight fan and I wanna see the best fights out there. Taylor vs Lacy is a piss take of a fight. Lacy had his soul taken by Calzaghe and has looked awful ever since.

                Froch is a fresh, undefeated fighter with KO power who's worked his way to a title shot. Taylor is a big name who needs a big fight with meaning.

                From a fans point of view, theres no contest over which fight is more credible.
                I'm just saying why the fight is not as feasible as Taylor-Lacy right now.

                Most fans have been clamoring for years for Taylor and Lacy to fight, especially stateside. Most fans who don't get SkyNet aren't big Froch supporters.

                There will be some who think this fight is a mismatch, but the majority of fight fans here don't even know who Froch is and thus can't really demand the fight.

                Picking up a belt goes a long way towards getting the big name fighters to fight you.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Steve Stifler
                  I'm just saying why the fight is not as feasible as Taylor-Lacy right now.

                  Most fans have been clamoring for years for Taylor and Lacy to fight, especially stateside. Most fans who don't get SkyNet aren't big Froch supporters.

                  There will be some who think this fight is a mismatch, but the majority of fight fans here don't even know who Froch is and thus can't really demand the fight.

                  Picking up a belt goes a long way towards getting the big name fighters to fight you.
                  Boxing is supposed to be a sport, fought for titles and ranking. The WBC has asked two men who do not possess titles to fight for one. Taylor, without a win at SMW and with losses in his last two fights is actually quite lucky to have been given the chance, and against a guy who on paper at least is not in his class. The fight is perfectly feasible, and the only thing preventing it being made is a choice by the Taylor camp to face an easier opponent in a meaningless fight. There is no real justification for this choice other than it benefits Taylor personally, but it is a bad choice for boxing. Taylor electing to face Lacy instead of Froch is a clear duck which it is only possible to sympathise with if you favour Taylor's career over the opportunity as a boxing fan to watch meaningful fights that answer questions, and indeed over the sport of boxing itself.

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                  • Dan...
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                    #49
                    When are people going to learn that this game is about money above all else? The money dictates the fights. Froch is a complete nobody in the States whereas Lacy certainly isn't. That is the justification for the Taylor-Lacy fight being made over Taylor-Froch. End of story really.

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                    • Mr. Ryan
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      Boxing is supposed to be a sport, fought for titles and ranking. The WBC has asked two men who do not possess titles to fight for one. Taylor, without a win at SMW and with losses in his last two fights is actually quite lucky to have been given the chance, and against a guy who on paper at least is not in his class. The fight is perfectly feasible, and the only thing preventing it being made is a choice by the Taylor camp to face an easier opponent in a meaningless fight. There is no real justification for this choice other than it benefits Taylor personally, but it is a bad choice for boxing. Taylor electing to face Lacy instead of Froch is a clear duck which it is only possible to sympathise with if you favour Taylor's career over the opportunity as a boxing fan to watch meaningful fights that answer questions, and indeed over the sport of boxing itself.


                      The WBO has already made an offer to stage a vacant title match between Taylor and Lacy. When dealing with the financial aspect of the sport, chances are that if Taylor commits to chase the WBC belt and the fight heads to a purse bid, the English promoter would offer more money because the fight is worth more in England, then Taylor would miss out on a shot at Lacy for a belt.

                      Besides, who is to say that Froch's wins over Robin Reid and Albert Rybacki are more credible than Lacy's over Epi Mendoza and Peter Manfredo?

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