how can Joe Calzaghe achieve P4P 1 status before retiring

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  • mr tricky
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    #81
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    Originally posted by them_apples
    not even that IMO, because Pacquiao resume would still rival his.

    jones by KO, dominates Pavlik, moves up in weight and beats up a heavyweight, or maybe David Haye. That would do it.

    KOing a 40 year old Jones isn't anything special.


    lmao, get of this forum and learn somthing about boxing,

    calzaghe would never fight david haye, their just too much of a dirrfrence in weight,

    ''KOing a 40 year old Jones isn't anything special'' jones is on a diffrent level to david haye, jones is a ledgend and still is, haye is a nobody at the moment who will try and gain somting ,

    paciaqo fights would rival his, wtf,

    eubank
    kessler
    lacy
    hopkins
    manfredo
    roy jones jnr
    pavlik?
    sheika

    somebody name paqiaos best oponents

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    • IMDAZED
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      #82
      Originally posted by abadger
      Actually it will. No reason to totally slate Pavlik, because he would have been beaten by a 'legend' (American), but that would have to mean that Hopkins was not a 'grandpa' anymore so Joe beating him would have to count.

      I wouldn't be surprised if some of them claimed Hopkins discovered the elixir of eternal life inbetween fights.
      The A beats B, B beats C therefore A beats C theory has been debunked countless times in boxing. Just because Bernard Hopkins beats Pavlik doesn't mean Calzaghe has too, by way of osmosis. That's why you fight. And this is coming from someone who thinks Calzaghe would put them thangs on Pavlik if they ever fought.

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      • Super welsh Joe
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        #83
        Originally posted by abadger
        Actually it will. No reason to totally slate Pavlik, because he would have been beaten by a 'legend' (American), but that would have to mean that Hopkins was not a 'grandpa' anymore so Joe beating him would have to count.

        I wouldn't be surprised if some of them claimed Hopkins discovered the elixir of eternal life inbetween fights.
        no doubt lol

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        • RightHandLead
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          #84
          Originally posted by abadger
          Actually it will. No reason to totally slate Pavlik, because he would have been beaten by a 'legend' (American), but that would have to mean that Hopkins was not a 'grandpa' anymore so Joe beating him would have to count.

          I wouldn't be surprised if some of them claimed Hopkins discovered the elixir of eternal life inbetween fights.
          Hops already found that **** years ago, that's how he's still able to be a game opponet for these younger kids. (Taylor, Pavlik, etc....)

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          • abadger
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            #85
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            The A beats B, B beats C therefore A beats C theory has been debunked countless times in boxing. Just because Bernard Hopkins beats Pavlik doesn't mean Calzaghe has too, by way of osmosis. That's why you fight. And this is coming from someone who thinks Calzaghe would put them thangs on Pavlik if they ever fought.
            I know that, but we were discussing the reaction of fans on here, and I'm certain some of them aren't aware of it. All Hopkins beating Pavlik would show is that he isn't done, which is the main reason Joe is criticised for beating him.

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            • egreezy
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              #86
              he would have to beat Dawson and Pavlik

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              • them_apples
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                #87
                Originally posted by mr tricky
                lmao, get of this forum and learn somthing about boxing,

                calzaghe would never fight david haye, their just too much of a dirrfrence in weight,

                ''KOing a 40 year old Jones isn't anything special'' jones is on a diffrent level to david haye, jones is a ledgend and still is, haye is a nobody at the moment who will try and gain somting ,

                paciaqo fights would rival his, wtf,

                eubank
                kessler
                lacy
                hopkins
                manfredo
                roy jones jnr
                pavlik?
                sheika

                somebody name paqiaos best oponents

                What if Pacquiao fights De La Hoya? why don't you learn something about boxing if you don't think that's a massive weight difference.

                former flyweight fighting a former Jr. middleweight.

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                • abadger
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by RightHandLead
                  Hops already found that **** years ago, that's how he's still able to be a game opponet for these younger kids. (Taylor, Pavlik, etc....)
                  You think he loaned it to Calzaghe after the fight? "I was going to retire, but now..."

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by abadger
                    I know that, but we were discussing the reaction of fans on here, and I'm certain some of them aren't aware of it. All Hopkins beating Pavlik would show is that he isn't done, which is the main reason Joe is criticised for beating him.
                    He's clearly not done as he showed last April. But he's far, far away from the same fighter he was even 6-7 years ago, let alone 10 years ago. I think people argue that because Calzaghe fans like to argue that their man was "old" too lol.

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                    • bsrizpac
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Super welsh Joe
                      your opinion is a minority opinion among thousands of Boxing fans and media in America and Britain ,i think we can ignore your opinion
                      Point to where I ever said Hopkins beat Joe. LOL@you.

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