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  • Ryn0
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    #81
    Originally posted by KrisSilver
    I agree, Pavliks too high imo.
    I was debating on putting him lower but I had Taylor at 5 after beating Hopkins so Pavlik takes his place.

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    • xxjace
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      #82
      Originally posted by Silencers
      1 loss and Cotto drops off the list?
      yeah I dont get this either..?What the Hell

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      • Kris Silver
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        #83
        Originally posted by Ryn0
        I was debating on putting him lower but I had Taylor at 5 after beating Hopkins so Pavlik takes his place.
        Taylor shuda been 6th, and Pavlik not to replace but be 7th per Ring.

        Heh opinions innit, but 2x wins over Hopkins is impressive. Pavlik hasn't done that, when he beats him once by UD perhaps 5th ish is fair.
        Last edited by Kris Silver; 07-30-2008, 07:04 PM.

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        • Ryn0
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          #84
          Originally posted by KrisSilver
          Taylor shuda been 6th, and Pavlik not to replace but be 7th per Ring.

          Heh opinions innit, but 2x wins over Hopkins is impressive. Pavlik hasn't done that, when he beats him once by UD perhaps 5th ish is fair.
          I replaced Cotto with Margarito I always do it it's kinda like my own personal rule that unless a boxer looks horrible in a fight or loses i'll keep him there. I had Hopkins at 2 when Taylor beat him Taylor replaced him but then he looked terrible against Wright, Ouma and Spinks he got changed to 5th . It'll change again soon anyway.

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          • Kris Silver
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            #85
            Originally posted by Ryn0
            I replaced Cotto with Margarito I always do it it's kinda like my own personal rule that unless a boxer looks horrible in a fight or loses i'll keep him there. I had Hopkins at 2 when Taylor beat him Taylor replaced him but then he looked terrible against Wright, Ouma and Spinks he got changed to 5th . It'll change again soon anyway.
            Hmmm, the whole swapping thing is overly simplistic and prone to error though. I mean what about if Abraham beats Pavlik with a lucky punch?

            Suddenly Pavliks way out of the top ten, and Abrahams 5th on that list?

            I think Margarito deserves to be above Cotto but a swaps not justified, perhaps some folk just factor in accomplishments more too.

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              #86
              Wow... couldn't have said it better myself. This is why he's the best welterweight right now.
              __________________________________________________ ____

              5) Antonio Margarito (37-5, 27 KO)

              Age: 30

              Current Title: Alphabelt at Welterweight/147 lbs.

              Career Titles: Two additional alphabelts at Welterweight

              Last Five Opponents: Miguel Cotto, Kermit Cintron, Golden Johnson, Paul Williams, Joshua Clottey


              Next Opponent: TBA

              The Take: The best Welterweight in the world right now is the man who rules the undisputed best weight class in Boxing. That appears to be Margarito right now. The remaining non-believers in this rugged warrior have caught the fever after Maragarito went Monsterito on previous BoxingScene #4 Miguel Cotto. After years of being the steady force just beneath the top of the ladder, Margarito now stands (almost) entirely alone atop the Welterweight ladder. It wasn’t just that he beat Cotto; from the sixth round forward, he laid waste to the game but outmatched Puerto Rican star. The only thing preventing Margarito from wearing the crown alone is one Paul Williams. Margarito’s only loss in the division this decade came in narrow fashion to Williams last August. The rematch can’t come soon enough. Margarito gets the nod for this list over Williams because, even with the loss, his total body of work is deeper and more impressive. After the Cotto win, Margarito is 8-1 with six knockouts against Ring Magazine top ten contenders at 147 lbs. since 2002. Williams is 2-1, having split two fights with Carlos Quintana.

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              • Ryn0
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                #87
                Originally posted by KrisSilver
                Hmmm, the whole swapping thing is overly simplistic and prone to error though. I mean what about if Abraham beats Pavlik with a lucky punch?

                Suddenly Pavliks way out of the top ten, and Abrahams 5th on that list?

                I think Margarito deserves to be above Cotto but a swaps not justified, perhaps some folk just factor in accomplishments more too.
                True but if Abraham did do that then looked horrible in his next few fights or didn't fight top notch competition then i'd move him down so eventually it'll be reflected anyway. I make exceptions for the number 1 P4P. He doesn't get swapped he moves down to 3 the number 2 moves up and the guy that beat the number 1 goes to number 2.

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                • crold1
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                  #88
                  I tend to agree on swapping...this is a rare case where something that looks like swapping to some still makes sense in a larger context. How good is Welterweight right now? How deep? How talented? If a case is made that Marg is #1 in the class right now (and I think he is) than how good is he across the scale? Also, the analogy of Abraham 'landing a lucky punch' doesn't apply here. Margarito laid waste to Cotto by the end of the fight. yeah, he lost early rounds, but big deal. By the end of the fight, we'd all seen a total ass whooping.

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                  • twinchrome44s
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                    #89
                    There is no way that someone that gets hit as many times as Margarito did in the face gets to place so high on the list. Regardless that he has a great chin as defense. Pound for pound means "all things considered" size, style, physical dimension etc. and Coto "pound for pound" is much better than Margarito.

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                    • boxaholic
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                      Cotto was not only fighting the best but he was beating the best up until Margarito. He took risks and that is one of the many reasons why he is one of my favorite fighters. Hatton was accused on avoiding Junior Witter(who was the number one junior welterweight at the time) and was constantly making excuses why not to fight him. Cotto was never accused of avoiding anyone. He didn't have to fight Margarito, but he did it any way.

                      For the list, i completely disagree with it. It like they have fighters on there that shouldn't be on there. No offense to the boxingscene staff by any means, but mine looks nothing like that.
                      Agreed. Hatton is still avoiding Junior Witter

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