Lets get this right... Jeff Lacy was going to be better than Roy Jones

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  • jcarr71
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    #41
    This isn't true, completely. Yes there was a significant fanbase for Jeff Lacy, but it wasn't like Roy. It wasn't like Floyd. It wasn't even like it is now for Gamboa. He wasn't universally looked at as an absurd talent. Sure, all three of those have their naysayers, but everyone is forced to recognize their natural gifts. I was one of those who doubted Jeff Lacy. I never saw a top level talent when I looked at him. He had no control, accuracy, and jumped in like crazy. I thought anyone with fast hands would eat him alive. I did not see him as an A level fighter, ever.

    I'm not going to claim I had Calzaghe over him though. As right as I was with Lacy, I was wrong with Joe. I saw him as an aging, paper belt holder who wasn't special to begin with. What a fool I turned out to be there, eh? Even had Lacy known what he was fighting, and there is no proof to say he didn't know Calzaghe was/is great by the way, he still would have been destroyed. He just was never that good. Go back and watch all his pre-Joe title fights. All these problems were there.

    It is sad to watch him fight now though. He did always have an eraser in that left hook, but it has looked like a normal good punch ever since he hurt it. It just doesn't wipe the slate clean anymore.

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    • El Dominicano
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      #42
      Originally posted by El Jesus
      i dont even think hes mentally weak, i think that whatever frustrations he has outside of the ring are alot of unspokens that we arent hearing about. Being mentally weak and not having heart go hand in hand, someone who is mentally weak would fold at the first thought of losing or likely not step in the ring at all. these issues are outside the ring, because no one can argue when hes in it, hes giving it what he has, no matter how limited at this point he really is.
      Isn't being Mentally Weak mean to not be confident enough to win.
      and not having heart would mean, not having the will to continue?? Because Lacy wasn't confident after a couple of rounds against Calzaghe but he had the heart to continue. Correct me if I'm wrong please
      Last edited by El Dominicano; 07-26-2008, 02:53 PM.

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      • El Dominicano
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        #43
        Originally posted by DanielTurcotte3
        Another meanigless thread from another meaningless poster......This is well quite frankly just as bad as every one of Viva Mexico's threads.................

        To even fathem that ppl think this about Lacy is a disgrace to him, boxing and to RJJR....You ppl really need to realize what Calz has done thus far, and its not too much so becuas eof this you guys tend to build these fighters up that he faced like they were ATG....Not happening.....The man barely got by Hopkins, and if you ask for my personal opnion i think the fight was 6 rounds apiece and with the KD a 1 point Hopkins win, but thats besides the point...If he does beat RJJR which i find a lil unlikely, He will have cemented his legacy as a HOF, but still not an ATG...Theres a big difference b/w the 2.........STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE PPL.....Threads like this is other on here are making this forum out to look bad, and I tend to think we have al ot of intelligent posters on here, but **** like this is giving a bad name to this forum as a whole!!!
        Larry Holmes continued to fight great opponents after defeating Ali and Holmes didn't take much credit into that win. If Calzaghe does beat RJJ believe that he won't be given that much credit for the win. Btw Hopkins beat Calzaghe in my opinion.

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        • El Jesus
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          #44
          Originally posted by El Dominicano
          Isn't being Mentally Weak mean to not have confident not believing u can win.
          and not having heart would mean, not having the will to continue?? Because Lacy wasn't confident after a couple of rounds against Calzaghe but he had the heart to continue. Correct me if I'm wrong please
          Someone who is mentally weak wont continue, i mean basically even if you have lost confidence and you are still coming foward still taking punches, still not giving up, if you are mentally weak you will look for a way out, lacy never did that. Lacy never looked to take a fall, he never made excuses none of that, someone who gets mentally weak during a fight will do things like that.

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          • johnm is...
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            #45
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Hindsight is a wondeful thing. He was America's next big hope. Kinda like Pavlik now.

            Which is why it would be a grave mistake for Pavlik to go near Calzaghe.

            Give me a ****ing break comparing Pavlik to Lacy. I'm not saying he definitely beats Calzaghe, but he definitely, without question, 100% makes it a much, MUCH more competitive fight. "grave mistake" LOf'nL. Sometimes I think a few of you aren't trying to convince US that Pavlik can't beat Calzaghe, I think you're trying to convince yourselves.

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            • El Dominicano
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              #46
              Originally posted by El Jesus
              Someone who is mentally weak wont continue, i mean basically even if you have lost confidence and you are still coming foward still taking punches, still not giving up, if you are mentally weak you will look for a way out, lacy never did that. Lacy never looked to take a fall, he never made excuses none of that, someone who gets mentally weak during a fight will do things like that.
              Ok, Thank You.

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              • NoFear24
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                #47
                whats up with this lacy talk. Lacy was overated from the start. The first time I saw him fight again The Alien Grant, I knew he was overated. People where saying whoa look at this guy, but in that fight I knew he was crap. He was getting outboxed from a guy who wasn't even that good. He would easily out box lacy keeping him away with his jab. Lacy is one of the most overated fighters in the past 5 years. So one dimensional and these ******s kept saying he was the next big thing. Lacy fought nobodys and his resume was trash.
                Lacy is trash stop talking about him like was actually the next big thing because he never was to begin with. All he did was relay on his power no true skill.

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #48
                  And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

                  Jeff Lacy is what he is. Let's not pretend he was God before Calzaghe got to him. What was his best win, Syd Vanderpool? A fight he was losing until he landed his best punch - the overhand right to the medulla.

                  Yeah, what could have been. SHUT UP.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by NoFear24
                    whats up with this lacy talk. Lacy was overated from the start. The first time I saw him fight again The Alien Grant, I knew he was overated. People where saying whoa look at this guy, but in that fight I knew he was crap. He was getting outboxed from a guy who wasn't even that good. He would easily out box lacy keeping him away with his jab. Lacy is one of the most overated fighters in the past 5 years. So one dimensional and these ******s kept saying he was the next big thing. Lacy fought nobodys and his resume was trash.
                    Lacy is trash stop talking about him like was actually the next big thing because he never was to begin with. All he did was relay on his power no true skill.
                    Thank you.

                    Anyone who actually saw him fight pre-Calzaghe knew he was severely overrated. I can't tell you how ****ty he looked in so many of those bouts before landing the KO blow, a not always legal one sometimes.

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                    • Mr. Ryan
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Underboss
                      jeff lacy has no heart what so ever.
                      How does he have no heart whatsoever when he survived the Calzaghe beating for 12 rounds and stood up when he was hurt in all of his fights?

                      And to threadstarter, who said Lacy was going to be better than Roy Jones? It's like Steve Farhood said during the broadcast of his fight with Omar Sheikha, what makes Lacy so entertaining is his vulnerability. It was inevitable that he'd lose, it's just that no one thought he'd lose to Calzaghe stateside.

                      Don't make Lacy into something he isn't because thats why he's been such a disappointment. He never was Tyson or better than Roy Jones (I don't know who told you that), he's just Jeff Lacy.

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