Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

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  • letsgobrady
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    #81
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Hitting someone in the bollox is not a bodyshot. Do you ever post anything on this forum that isnt something negative about Hatton?
    you see a low blow because your hatton fan and the reason you make tszyu out to be 1 of the greatest fighters ever is because your a hatton fan
    Last edited by letsgobrady; 07-17-2008, 01:55 PM.

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    • MikeBrew328
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      #82
      I can't believe how many people actually think Kostya Tszyu would win in a fight with Mayweather. He wouldn't win by KO, Mayweather has a very good chin, and a decision aint happening either. He's nowhere near Floyd's level. Floyd would have a lot more power at 140 too. Mayweather by TKO or decision.

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      • poeticlsykuac
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        #83
        Originally posted by MikeBrew328
        I can't believe how many people actually think Kostya Tszyu would win in a fight with Mayweather. He wouldn't win by KO, Mayweather has a very good chin, and a decision aint happening either. He's nowhere near Floyd's level. Floyd would have a lot more power at 140 too. Mayweather by TKO or decision.
        A lot more power? Are you serious? Tszyu my very well be the hardest puncher in 140 ever which includes JCC, Pryor, DLH, etc. Mayweather has never been hit with what Tszyu has to offer. Tszyu was an extremely special fighter, who broke down fighters with hard blows. He had one punch power, ask Judah. PBF left that division in a very short period of time, and I am sure that Roger had a bit to do with that. Roger fought him, and I believe that their styles are similar seeing as how he trained him. A lot of those defensive tactics were used against Tszyu. Tszyu's offensive arsenal was potent.

        Mayweather would have to out muscle him in my opinion and I don't know that he could do that. Hatton and Phillips both were rugged fighters, they were strong inside fighters, I don't mean they could fight on the inside I mean they would also use their strength to tire you out. Mayweather wouldn't do this, he isn't as strong as either of them.

        I think Mayweather would/could win a decision. I also think Tszyu could change any fight with one punch in his prime. The fact is nobody wanted a piece of Tszyu in his prime and there is a reason for it.

        Tszyu hit ****ing hard, dude had stones for hands. Everyone he hit in his prime got hurt. Even Phillips and Hatton had a moment or two hurt. Against Phillips he showed up arrogant and out of shape, Hatton he was just old and he didn't have it in he tank.

        Be a little respectful of an all time great.

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        • boxaholic
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          #84
          Tszyu didn't get the respect that he deserves but going out on his stool against Hatton in the final round took his credibility to ****. Floyd easy at 140.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #85
            Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
            PRIME for PRIME: Tszyu vs Mayweather at 140

            Who Wins???
            both are great fighters but defense trumps offense.

            Mayweather by decision.

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            • wmute
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              #86
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              No, I'm talking inside for sure.

              And Floyd will pump the jab because that's what you do. Tszyu was deceptively fast-handed; not the type of guy you wanna leap in against (ahem...Zab).

              Tszyu used to be an EXCELLENT boxer in the amateurs - he beat Vernon Forrest handily. But as a pro, he was much more aggressive and more of a come-forward fighter (though we did see some of those excellent skills again against Ben Tackie). He'll come forward because...what else is he gonna do? And Floyd is gonna slide in close because he doesn't wanna be mid-range or on the outside. Tszyu's not gonna push Floyd off him - he's gonna try to work on the inside, like he did against Hatton and Vince. And Floyd's gonna punish him there.
              wrt inside-midrange:
              in that case I disagree. Floyd working on the inside happens systematically but rarely (in most fights).

              wrt Jab:
              I was saying that he doesnt use it much in most of his other fights (just like inside fighting see above), not that it would be a bad idea to use it against zoo

              wrt Zoo moving forward:
              Ok let's say you are Zoo, you move in a few times, and you get spanked a up close. Why would you keep on doing that. Wouldnt you have a better chance to keep it at a distance where Mayweather would have to worry about power shots at least? Surely you wouldnt get your body demolished as you would if you stood there up close. Would you rather be potshotted or broken down?

              Also it's not like Zoo had ANY choice agaisnt Hatton except fight up close... even against Philips not exactly much of a choice

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              • wmute
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                #87
                Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
                A lot more power? Are you serious? Tszyu my very well be the hardest puncher in 140 ever which includes JCC, Pryor, DLH, etc. Mayweather has never been hit with what Tszyu has to offer. Tszyu was an extremely special fighter, who broke down fighters with hard blows. He had one punch power, ask Judah. PBF left that division in a very short period of time, and I am sure that Roger had a bit to do with that. Roger fought him, and I believe that their styles are similar seeing as how he trained him. A lot of those defensive tactics were used against Tszyu. Tszyu's offensive arsenal was potent.

                Mayweather would have to out muscle him in my opinion and I don't know that he could do that. Hatton and Phillips both were rugged fighters, they were strong inside fighters, I don't mean they could fight on the inside I mean they would also use their strength to tire you out. Mayweather wouldn't do this, he isn't as strong as either of them.

                I think Mayweather would/could win a decision. I also think Tszyu could change any fight with one punch in his prime. The fact is nobody wanted a piece of Tszyu in his prime and there is a reason for it.

                Tszyu hit ****ing hard, dude had stones for hands. Everyone he hit in his prime got hurt. Even Phillips and Hatton had a moment or two hurt. Against Phillips he showed up arrogant and out of shape, Hatton he was just old and he didn't have it in he tank.

                Be a little respectful of an all time great.
                go tell that to Hatton...

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                • BMWM3P
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                  #88
                  Floyd wouldn't have stood up to Kosta's pressure.

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                  • wmute
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by BMWM3P
                    Floyd wouldn't have stood up to Kosta's pressure.
                    ...lol...

                    based on which of the many Zoo fights you carefully analyzed?

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                    • poeticlsykuac
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by wmute
                      go tell that to Hatton...
                      Hatton wasn't out muscled by PBF, he was pot shotted and broken down. PBF didn't wrestle Hatton at all he kept his distance with the some work here and there on the inside. Hatton and Phillips never backed down and wrestled a little with Tszyu, PBF could not do that, it ain't his style or his strength.

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