Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

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  • wmute
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    #91
    Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
    Hatton wasn't out muscled by PBF, he was pot shotted and broken down. PBF didn't wrestle Hatton at all he kept his distance with the some work here and there on the inside. Hatton and Phillips never backed down and wrestled a little with Tszyu, PBF could not do that, it ain't his style or his strength.
    sorry, but Hatton was trying to move and turn PBF in the clinches and he couldnt... and PBF didnt "keep the distance" for half of that fight...

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      #92
      reminds me MAYBE of Duran- Leonard in terms of the pre-fight match up. Tszyu was at 140 for sometime and can really sit down on his punches. But would he be able to catch Floyd with flush shots? I don't know. I still believe that this was a fight that could have been made. My prediction is that Floyd outBOXES and frustrates Tszyu with his ring generalship, as Tszyu looks for the big right hand ALL NIGHT that they threw to basically DESTROY Zab's career...

      Mayweather UD Tszyu

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      • poeticlsykuac
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        #93
        Originally posted by wmute
        sorry, but Hatton was trying to move and turn PBF in the clinches and he couldnt... and PBF didnt "keep the distance" for half of that fight...
        Well PBF has quite a bit more agility then Hatton I agree, but Tszyu just threw fighters around, because they wanted to clinch not vice versa(in his prime). PBF tied up, and fought well on the inside I am not saying otherwise, but if he kept that distance he was/is comfortable with Tszyu it would be lights out. I didn't say that Tszyu would win, I am merely saying he has a better chance then you think. Tszyu carefully studied each fighter both outside and inside the ring. He did his homework. He timed fighters for years, and his power was unheard of. Tszyu caught anyone/everyone and he hurt them, why would PBF be any different, Tszyu would be the hardest puncher he had ever faced.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Money May
          reminds me MAYBE of Duran- Leonard in terms of the pre-fight match up. Tszyu was at 140 for sometime and can really sit down on his punches. But would he be able to catch Floyd with flush shots? I don't know. I still believe that this was a fight that could have been made. My prediction is that Floyd outBOXES and frustrates Tszyu with his ring generalship, as Tszyu looks for the big right hand ALL NIGHT that they threw to basically DESTROY Zab's career...

          Mayweather UD Tszyu
          That is the general consensus, but it seemed to me that in a lot of his fights Tsyzu set traps, let fighters get comfortable, threw softer shots early on, then settled in and used it. Basically he would find his shots then use his power. Though I to agree that Mayweather would most likely UD, I think that Tszyu would catch him and we would see what happens for there. It just seemed Tszyu caught everyone.

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            #95
            Prime Tszyu absolutely slaughters any version of Ricky Hatton.

            Tszyu and Mayweather would be a great matchup. Kostya was very good at timing and catching very fast fighters. If he was able to catch Floyd, he would likely stop him, if not, Floyd by decision. Almost an even money fight.

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              #96
              Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
              Well PBF has quite a bit more agility then Hatton I agree, but Tszyu just threw fighters around, because they wanted to clinch not vice versa(in his prime). PBF tied up, and fought well on the inside I am not saying otherwise, but if he kept that distance he was/is comfortable with Tszyu it would be lights out. I didn't say that Tszyu would win, I am merely saying he has a better chance then you think. Tszyu carefully studied each fighter both outside and inside the ring. He did his homework. He timed fighters for years, and his power was unheard of. Tszyu caught anyone/everyone and he hurt them, why would PBF be any different, Tszyu would be the hardest puncher he had ever faced.
              I have been arguing with IMDAZED about where thus fight would be inside, vs. outside.

              Anyway my point is Mayweather is not going to be manhandled at 140. Hatton couldnt, and it's his bread and butter and damn sure he was wrestling all the time.

              Mayweather is different from anyone Zoo has faced because he can fight outside/inside/midrange. Zoo fought fast boxers, but never found anyone with the boxing IQ, and the set of skill of Mayweather in front of him. Let's face it Judah on the inside is nothing (before even getting to his mind).

              Zoo timed almost everyone, but it goes both ways: Mayweather almost never gets timed. He tries and succeeds to avoid falling in a pattern, so that openings are harder to find, which is part of the reason why most fighters have a very low output against him)

              I dont understand one part of your post, do you think it would be lights out for Mayweather up close? or at a distance? I dont think a KO up close is a possibility (Zoo needs space fot that sledgehammer to work its magic).

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                #97
                If Hatton found a way to get it done, I'm sure Mayweather could as well.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by JournalSquare
                  If Hatton found a way to get it done, I'm sure Mayweather could as well.
                  I think what people underestimate is how great Mayweather is at changing up his game plan mid-fight. He alters his defense, footwork, plan of attack, angle of punches etc all to help him cruise to easy victories against hard opponents. Nothing about Tszyu ever really made me think he was tricky or a particularly cagey fighter.

                  Mayweather would figure him out quickly and do his thing... like always.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by JournalSquare
                    If Hatton found a way to get it done, I'm sure Mayweather could as well.
                    Hatton wrestled his way to victory against Tszyu....Tszyu wasn't able to get any leverage on his shots because of Hatton's John Ruiz hugging style....The British ref was a biased joke and let Hatton get away with his crap the whole fight....Tszyu was also past his prime against Hatton....Prime Tszyu would've demolished Hatton.

                    Prime Tszyu vs Prime Floyd could go either way, but I would lean towards Tszyu by stoppage.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
                      I think what people underestimate is how great Mayweather is at changing up his game plan mid-fight. He alters his defense, footwork, plan of attack, angle of punches etc all to help him cruise to easy victories against hard opponents. Nothing about Tszyu ever really made me think he was tricky or a particularly cagey fighter.

                      Mayweather would figure him out quickly and do his thing... like always.
                      Here's the way I look at it. I like Sharmba Mitchell, but he was never Floyd Mayweather. Sharmba Mitchell was able to give Tszyu all kinds of problems in the first fight with his speed and movement. Personally, I don't think Mayweather would move as much as Mitchell, he'd sit in the pocket and counter everything Tszyu tried and then keep him turning.

                      I like Tszyu, but his lack of an inside game plan and robotic movement doesn't get anything done against Mayweather.

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