Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

[letsgobrady]

it is one of the keys to beating kt. he needs space for his power to be effective.

now ricky is a pressure type fighter as well so he can try to use phillips' blue print.

the thing is would mayweather do that? he'd try to keep things close at times but he wouldn't swarm kostya. at least i don't think he would.

floyd fights on the inside better than hatton and phillips

[IMDAZED]

TWO different fighters, but props cos no one else was thinking Floyd would be on the inside with Hatton.

Anyway look at the Hatton fight,

did Floyd stand on the inside from the get go? no
was he the one taking the fight there? no
Roger Mayw. was telling him at some point, ok stop boxing just stay in there, you can beat him there, and even then he didnt have to make the move to get there, because Hatton would always be there. Would Zoo make the move? maybe. Do you see Floyd making it otherwise? I don't.

I already said he would have the upper hand on the inside, but that's not how it would go down IMO.

Interesting.

Floyd fights on the inside in nearly every fight. In fact, he fights nearly the same way each time - save for the Judah fight where he totally switched it up. But he'll bounce from the outside, pump the jab...then settle in on the inside, get flat-footed and work there. I'm not saying he'll spend the whole time there, but he'll spend most of it. And Tszyu - like Hatton - will keep coming forward - Floyd will happily oblige.

[IMDAZED]

floyd fights on the inside better than hatton and phillips

Agreed 100%.

[j.razor]

whats wit da ****** question Mayweather would spank him!!!

[The_Italian]

I dont understand it as well, Tsyzu was a hard puncher but he lacks great workrate EVEN in his PRIME and to be honest a bit overrated, And when you're a technical sound boxer like Mayweather someone like Tsyzu would be easy picking.

exactly...

i mean im not saying Kostya Tszyu is garbage by any means but really who has he beat on an elite level to even begin to THINK he has a chance to beat a (in his prime and before he retired) THEE p4p champion of the world?

Zab Judah - a fluke if there ever was one...zab went out in the second round looking like a dumbass because he thought Tszyu was going to be an easy fight but seemed to overlook the fact that he packs tons of strength in his punches and zab hadn't gotten use to his power yet in the fight so he was vunerable to big shots...

had zab took him serious i believe zab would have decisioned him.

so who's left? JCC? thats about it.

Mayweather is too technical...too defensive...and too smart for tszyu.

like i said previously Mayweather 12 rounds UD win.

best chance tszyu would have is to land that one big punch to win the fight...which isnt impossible...but very improbable.

[IMDAZED]

exactly...

i mean im not saying Kostya Tszyu is garbage by any means but really who has he beat on an elite level to even begin to THINK he has a chance to beat a (in his prime and before he retired) THEE p4p champion of the world?

Zab Judah - a fluke if there ever was one...zab went out in the second round looking like a dumbass because he thought Tszyu was going to be an easy fight but seemed to overlook the fact that he packs tons of strength in his punches and zab hadn't gotten use to his power yet in the fight so he was vunerable to big shots...

had zab took him serious i believe zab would have decisioned him.

so who's left? JCC? thats about it.

Mayweather is too technical...too defensive...and too smart for tszyu.

like i said previously Mayweather 12 rounds UD win.

best chance tszyu would have is to land that one big punch to win the fight...which isnt impossible...but very improbable.

Agreed except for one thing: Zab Judah never beats Tszyu. Never. Zab is just not good at fighting on the inside and he's not good at staying focused for 12 rounds either. People act like he got careless against Tszyu...nah, he just folded. Watch the first round - he lands one good uppercut, Tsztyu retaliates and by the end of the round, Zab's already backtracking without throwing punches. He did the same int he second till he got caught.

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Interesting.

Floyd fights on the inside in nearly every fight. In fact, he fights nearly the same way each time - save for the Judah fight where he totally switched it up. But he'll bounce from the outside, pump the jab...then settle in on the inside, get flat-footed and work there. I'm not saying he'll spend the whole time there, but he'll spend most of it. And Tszyu - like Hatton - will keep coming forward - Floyd will happily oblige.

Dude, are you talking about inside or midrange?

Because I am talking about inside... your description sounds like Floyd getting in midrange to throw powershots.

wouldnt want to have discussed all this time because we use words differently ...

I don't see Floyd pumping that many jabs that often...

And Zoo might come forward, but Hatton was trying to get in his shorts. Do you see Zoo do that?

Well, we'll never know how it goes down anyway...

[IMDAZED]

Dude, are you talking about inside or midrange?

Because I am talking about inside... your description sounds like Floyd getting in midrange to throw powershots.

wouldnt want to have discussed all this time because we use words differently ...

I don't see Floyd pumping that many jabs that often...

And Zoo might come forward, but Hatton was trying to get in his shorts. Do you see Zoo do that?

Well, we'll never know how it goes down anyway...

No, I'm talking inside for sure.

And Floyd will pump the jab because that's what you do. Tszyu was deceptively fast-handed; not the type of guy you wanna leap in against (ahem...Zab).

Tszyu used to be an EXCELLENT boxer in the amateurs - he beat Vernon Forrest handily. But as a pro, he was much more aggressive and more of a come-forward fighter (though we did see some of those excellent skills again against Ben Tackie). He'll come forward because...what else is he gonna do? And Floyd is gonna slide in close because he doesn't wanna be mid-range or on the outside. Tszyu's not gonna push Floyd off him - he's gonna try to work on the inside, like he did against Hatton and Vince. And Floyd's gonna punish him there.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

tszyu dropped hatton with a clean body shot and it was ruled a slip

Hitting someone in the bollox is not a bodyshot. Do you ever post anything on this forum that isnt something negative about Hatton?

[Sin City]

Mayweather by decision.

I think Mayweather would fight a very cautious fight by potshotting and moving, not staying still for Tszyu to catch him because Tszyu hit very, very hard and would have a puncher's chance throughout. Tszyu also had some problems with slick boxers, Judah was too fast for him in the first round, it was when he got ****y and slowed down that he got caught, Mitchell was giving him some trouble in their first fight as well.

And just how exactly was he having trouble if he knocked his ass out in the second?