Kostya Tszyu vs Floyd Mayweather at 140

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  • Dan...
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    #31
    I am saying this is a massive Kostya fan, but I don't think it reflects very well on this forum that this poll is so close.

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    • KostyaTszyu44
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      #32
      Originally posted by raycorey
      Tsyzu is somehow overrated IMHO but he is a good little fight, He got beat in his Prime by Vince philips so am pretty sure PBF would UD him.
      styles make fights mate, kostya's kryptonite was high pressure fighters, but he did well against guys who danced and moved (judah, mitchell)

      but even in both his losses, he still did OK. against phillips he was weight drained ( he had trouble making jww in the late 90's but he improved his diet after this fight and made it easier) and poorly motivated.....and against hatton he was old, had no motivation, and plus ricky got away with frigging murder, hitting tszyu low, hanging off him and not letting kostya actually box, turning it into a bloody wrestling match.......but against floyd the ref did his job

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        #33
        Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44
        styles make fights mate, kostya's kryptonite was high pressure fighters, but he did well against guys who danced and moved (judah, mitchell)

        but even in both his losses, he still did OK. against phillips he was weight drained ( he had trouble making jww in the late 90's but he improved his diet after this fight and made it easier) and poorly motivated.....and against hatton he was old, had no motivation, and plus ricky got away with frigging murder, hitting tszyu low, hanging off him and not letting kostya actually box, turning it into a bloody wrestling match.......but against floyd the ref did his job

        I know Tsyzu well he was one of my favourite fighters back in the 90( because of his ponytail...lol) and i saw many of his amateur fights including the one against Vernon forrest so i know he box well against Boxer/Movers but Mayweather is a very good defensive boxer who people like Judah and Mitchell doesnt come close to.

        I kinda feel sorry for him in the Hatton fight because hatton could have entered the ring with a ******* and he would have go away with it, The fight doesnt really have any highlight to speak of because there was too many wrestling,hugging and clinging going on.

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          #34
          Originally posted by raycorey
          I know Tsyzu well he was one of my favourite fighters back in the 90( because of his ponytail...lol) and i saw many of his amateur fights including the one against Vernon forrest so i know he box well against Boxer/Movers but Mayweather is a very good defensive boxer who people like Judah and Mitchell doesnt come close to.

          I kinda feel sorry for him in the Hatton fight because hatton could have entered the ring with a ******* and he would have go away with it, The fight doesnt really have any highlight to speak of because there was too many wrestling,hugging and clinging going on.
          What your point underlines is the massive disparity between refereeing and judgeing in different countries, i dont doubt that had the fight taken place elsewhere Hattons tactics would have been stamped on as they were in the Mayweather fight, albeit by a referee who has since proved himself to be an incompetent shadow of the great he once was.
          For me the whole fight was a highlight simply because the majority didnt give Hatton a snowballs chance in hell of winning that fight, yet he ate many many great punches and came swarming back, there were points in that fight where it looked like Hatton was on the way out but he ****** it up and kept coming, breaking Tszyu's heart in the process.
          If you listen to Tszyu's post fight interview he was very gracious indeed about the new champion, which proves to me the point that Tszyu was indeed a great great champion and an honourable man.

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            #35
            Originally posted by the_godslayer
            What your point underlines is the massive disparity between refereeing and judgeing in different countries, i dont doubt that had the fight taken place elsewhere Hattons tactics would have been stamped on as they were in the Mayweather fight, albeit by a referee who has since proved himself to be an incompetent shadow of the great he once was.
            For me the whole fight was a highlight simply because the majority didnt give Hatton a snowballs chance in hell of winning that fight, yet he ate many many great punches and came swarming back, there were points in that fight where it looked like Hatton was on the way out but he ****** it up and kept coming, breaking Tszyu's heart in the process.
            If you listen to Tszyu's post fight interview he was very gracious indeed about the new champion, which proves to me the point that Tszyu was indeed a great great champion and an honourable man.


            Trust me mate i didnt give Hatton 1% of a chance going into his fight with tsyzu, I thought he would get KO with the first right hand tsyzu landed on him but credit to Hatton he prove me and millions of people wrong by having the right tactics to beat Tsyzu THAT night but he could have done anything to Tsyzu and Dave parris would have let Hatton got away with it THAT night.

            When i meant highlight i was talking about highlight reels of where there was effective punching landing on both fighters...its difficult to find any of those that would last 3 minute.

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              #36
              Originally posted by raycorey
              Trust me mate i didnt give Hatton 1% of a chance going into his fight with tsyzu, I thought he would get KO with the first right hand tsyzu landed on him but credit to Hatton he prove me and millions of people wrong by having the right tactics to beat Tsyzu THAT night but he could have done anything to Tsyzu and Dave parris would have let Hatton got away with it THAT night.

              When i meant highlight i was talking about highlight reels of where there was effective punching landing on both fighters...its difficult to find any of those that would last 3 minute.
              I totally agree, it certainly was an ugly fight, and i also agree that the ref played his part in allowing that ugliness. Im not sure that the refereeing that night was as bad as Joe Cortez was in the Mayweather fight (and subsequent fights) though.

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                #37
                Originally posted by wlad Owns
                prime For Prime: Tszyu Vs Mayweather At 140

                Who Wins???
                Besides 130 Lbs...floyd Looked His Best At 140 Lbs, And I Sincerely Doubt That Tszyu Would Hit Mayweather With A Judah Shot...mayweather Would Outbox Tsyzu For A Late Stoppage Or A Decision.

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                • BadNewz
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                  #38
                  Floyd by easy KO. He would pick Tszyu apart at will and the fight would end basically whenever Floyd wanted it to end, just like the fight with Corrales. Against Floyd, Tszyu is just athletically overmatched.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    if it goes to decision. floyd.

                    but i see kostya getting a ko.

                    depends on how good floyd jr.'s chin really is. hard to tell.
                    Guy has hardly ever been hurt in his career. KO?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Live Dog
                      Guy has hardly ever been hurt in his career. KO?
                      he doesn't get hurt because he doesn't get hit.

                      the only chance i see kostya winning is by ko.

                      if it goes to decision 101 out 100 times floyd will win the decision.

                      kostya was packing some serious firepower in his day. eventually he'll land something.

                      if floyd has a great chin he'd win. if floyd has an ok chin then kostya could catch him with something.

                      i can't say though because floyd doesn't get hit. for all we know he's packing china but he never gets hit cleanly so how do we know? it took us how many years to realize roy didn't have the greatest of chins.

                      that one ****** lucky punch of dumbass antonio changed everything.

                      it went from no one can beat roy from 160-190 to well this guy could beat him and this guy could beat him.......

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