Come on now... If the fight was on the east coast you could'nt offer enough seats to sell. This will be Cotto's opportunity to show the west coast what he is all about. Of course the economy has a little bit to do with the ticket sales but over all Cotto understands now is his opportunity to force Floyd out of retirement. He wants to fight Floyd, believe me. Not only for the big pay check but because he want's to prove he truly is the best welterweight out there. He is a true fighter. After this fight with Margarito the boxing fans all over the world will be all over Floyd to come back. Why? because people want to see Floyd's big mouth getting shut. Shut with punches in the ring and they will know Cotto is the one who can do it.
Looks like Floyd was right
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Fan of screaming black men. Do u realize that when Floyd was first interested in a fight with Oscar, they were about 3 weight-classes apart, and Floyd had yet to even headline a ppv. Cotto and Floyd are both in the same weight-class, both are undefeated and in thier primes, both have headlined ppv's, and this is a fight that the entire boxing world is calling for.Originally posted by HorusThe Stipulations Game From Floyd to Cotto..
Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd
were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar
Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar....
On Cotto vs. Floyd ..
That's just how it goes...
Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar...
So how you think we felt about that....
But we didnt ***** and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing...
We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar...
We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen....
and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces....
Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT
....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER....
and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening...
Welcome to THE CLUB...!!!
Look at HBO making the argument that Floyd isnt a big enough star to fight Oscar..!!!
3:20-on
WHAT I DONT GET IS WHY DIDNT THEY PUSH THE
FLOYD VS. OSCAR FIGHT
LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH THE
COTTO VS FLOYD FIGHT.....
WHAT KIND OF DOUBLE STANDARD IS THAT......!!!!!
@ Larry Merchant and STEWARD
IRONY
So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd
and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen
But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards...
before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!!
Double Standard once again....
But here is the common factor in any those situations,
1. the fight eventually happen
2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!!
So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!!
if it works....????
I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case....
But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!!
Obviously this format works...!!!
Your comparison of Oscar making Floyd wait, to that of Floyd making Cotto wait is waaaay off!Comment
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The Stipulations Game From Floyd to Cotto..I think Floyd is the only champion in recent times to use the excuse of an opponent not doing enough ppv numbers in order not to fight them. I can understand if he wants to use that as a tool to negotiate money, but to use it as an excuse to avoid the fight altogether? Cmon!
Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd
were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar
Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar....
On Cotto vs. Floyd ..
That's just how it goes...
Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar...
So how you think we felt about that....
But we didnt ***** and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing...
We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar...
We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen....
and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces....
Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT
....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER....
and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening...
Welcome to THE CLUB...!!!
IRONY
So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd
and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen
But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards... before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!!
Double Standard once again....
But here is the common factor in any those situations,
1. the fight eventually happen
2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!!
So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!!
if it works....????
I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case....
But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!!
Obviously this format works...!!!Comment
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Fan of screaming black men. Do u realize that when Floyd was first interested in a fight with Oscar, they were about 3 weight-classes apart, and Floyd had yet to even headline a ppv. Cotto and Floyd are both in the same weight-class, both are undefeated and in thier primes, both have headlined ppv's, and this is a fight that the entire boxing world is calling for.The Stipulations Game From Floyd to Cotto..
Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd
were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar
Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar....
On Cotto vs. Floyd ..
That's just how it goes...
Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar...
So how you think we felt about that....
But we didnt ***** and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing...
We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar...
We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen....
and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces....
Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT
....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER....
and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening...
Welcome to THE CLUB...!!!
IRONY
So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd
and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen
But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards... before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!!
Double Standard once again....
But here is the common factor in any those situations,
1. the fight eventually happen
2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!!
So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!!
if it works....????
I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case....
But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!!
Obviously this format works...!!!
Your comparison of Oscar making Floyd wait, to that of Floyd making Cotto wait is waaaay off!Comment
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Unless I'm wrong, Floyd is retired and hasn't shown any interest in coming back. You all are not only speculating but almost demanding and taking orders on whom a retired fighter should fight. Like you I would've loved to see him take out Cotto before he left. But, Floyd knows the public NEVER lets you out of the game when you're on top. After Cotto there would be someone else the public would demand. When has a retired boxer received so much attention on a boxing forum?Ok, so Floyd is a huge draw. So if he fights Cotto it will sell 500,000K at the very minimum.
If that's not enough, well too bad, there is no other possible opponent for floyd so he should stay retired if that's all he cares about. ODH is the only name bigger then floyd, that's a no go. Ricky hatton rematch would do well. Maybe pacquiao? Thats it. There simply are not any big names in boxing anymore, other then the names i just mentioned and maybe one or two other guys.Comment
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So BY your Logic is that Because Mayweather wasnt in De La Hoya Weight Class... That Mayweather calling him out doesnt Count...Fan of screaming black men. Do u realize that when Floyd was first interested in a fight with Oscar, they were about 3 weight-classes apart, and Floyd had yet to even headline a ppv. Cotto and Floyd are both in the same weight-class, both are undefeated and in thier primes, both have headlined ppv's, and this is a fight that the entire boxing world is calling for.
Your comparison of Oscar making Floyd wait, to that of Floyd making Cotto wait is waaaay off!
So I guess Pavlik calling Out Calzaghe doesnt Count when he has Abramham in his division..?
So I guess Pacquaio Calling Out Hatton doesnt count when he has prime lightweights in his division...?
So I guess Roy Jones calling out John Ruiz didnt count either..?
Or
De La Hoya calling out Bernard Hopkins..?
or
Ricky Hatton calling out Mayweather...!!
HOW THE ****** THE **** ARE YOU..?
LEARN SOME BASIC COMMON SENSE...Comment
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Once again, your off. Floyd was seen as small Frye when Oscar was in his prime. It doenst help that they were about 3 weight-classes apart. The guys u mentioned above were only 1 weight-class apart. Those fights were/are much easier to make...idiot.So BY your Logic is that Because Mayweather wasnt in De La Hoya Weight Class... That Mayweather calling him out doesnt Count...
So I guess Pavlik calling Out Calzaghe doesnt Count when he has Abramham in his division..?
So I guess Pacquaio Calling Out Hatton doesnt count when he has prime lightweights in his division...?
So I guess Roy Jones calling out John Ruiz didnt count either..?
Or
De La Hoya calling out Bernard Hopkins..?
or
Ricky Hatton calling out Mayweather...!!
HOW THE ****** THE **** ARE YOU..?
LEARN SOME BASIC COMMON SENSE...Comment
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THANK YOU........Fan of screaming black men. Do u realize that when Floyd was first interested in a fight with Oscar, they were about 3 weight-classes apart, and Floyd had yet to even headline a ppv. Cotto and Floyd are both in the same weight-class, both are undefeated and in thier primes, both have headlined ppv's, and this is a fight that the entire boxing world is calling for.
Your comparison of Oscar making Floyd wait, to that of Floyd making Cotto wait is waaaay off!
you are dealing with a child.. let it go you owned his ass...Comment
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Ur Ignorant and have double standards which are obvious., U lack common sense...
From a Legacy and Business Stand Point..
How does Margarito Enhance Floyd Status even Higher than what it is now?
How does Paul Williams Enhance Floyd Status even Higher what it is now?
How Does Miguel Cotto Enhance Floyd Status even Higher what it is now?
All those Fighters are "Small Frye's" compared to Mayweather
Floyd is already Greatest of His Generation
What is the point of fighting Non-Status Enhancing Fights, If they dont bring you A Lucrative Payday or If he cant become the greatest fighter ever fighting these guys...??
He was already the P4P BEST since 2005
He was already the undisputed Lineal Champion
He was already recognized around the world the best boxer alive
He was already accomplish what no other fighter in history has never done
The only thing he has left to accomplish is to be call the The Greatest of All Time
If he cant accomplish the status of Greatest Fighter Ever Fighting Guys Like Margarito at this point of his career, or Make 20-30 million like he did against Hatton.. Why fight these guys, if they dont Enhance his legacy past what it already is...
It is obvious people will never give him that status so why continue fighting for something he already has... And that is the recognition as the best boxer alive and P4P best....
Oscar Fought Floyd to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday
SRL fought Hagler to Enhance his legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday
Ricky Hatton fought to Floyd to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday
Oscar fought Tito to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday
SRL fought Hearns to Enhance his Legacy And Get a Lucrative Payday
So why should Floyd listen to guys like Margarito,Williams,Cotto calling him out, if they dont Enhance his Legacy And Get him Lucrative Payday ..?
Like Floyd did for Oscar
Last edited by Horus; 07-16-2008, 05:10 PM.Comment
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