Someone explain to me the whole RJJ was weight drained against Tarver theory.

[THE REED]

That's a logical answer. I can accept that.

cool i feel like the RJ spokesperson around this place

i should get a job at square ring

[Bhopreign]

Ive never seen anything like Roy fans, its really funny. The facts are that Roy got caught in the 2nd fight that anyone could have gotten caught with and got knocked out. After that he was and still is mentally bothered by it, Tarver is in his head, he is so cautious after that punch when he is in the ring with Tarver, thats called ownage just get over it. Its like having a horrific incident happen in your life and when faced with that thought again it affects you. Psychologically Tarver is in his head, like when Vernon beat Shane the first time, in the second fight whenever Vernon feinted with the right hand Shane jerked back, it happens all the time, just because it happened to Roy oh well. Funny how nobody says Roy was weight drained in the Johnson fight, what happened then? Roy lost every round and got knocked out, I saw in Roy's eyes after the first Tarver fight he wasnt mentally there, look in his eyes, he looked mentally disconnected, like he wasnt all there. Its called getting knocked out horrifically.

[rizkybizness]

Ive never seen anything like Roy fans, its really funny. The facts are that Roy got caught in the 2nd fight that anyone could have gotten caught with and got knocked out. After that he was and still is mentally bothered by it, Tarver is in his head, he is so cautious after that punch when he is in the ring with Tarver, thats called ownage just get over it. Its like having a horrific incident happen in your life and when faced with that thought again it affects you. Psychologically Tarver is in his head, like when Vernon beat Shane the first time, in the second fight whenever Vernon feinted with the right hand Shane jerked back, it happens all the time, just because it happened to Roy oh well. Funny how nobody says Roy was weight drained in the Johnson fight, what happened then? Roy lost every round and got knocked out, I saw in Roy's eyes after the first Tarver fight he wasnt mentally there, look in his eyes, he looked mentally disconnected, like he wasnt all there. Its called getting knocked out horrifically.

Exactly, just like when Bhop has flashes when he's in a public shower.

[Migs]

cool i feel like the RJ spokesperson around this place

i should get a job at square ring

Haha, that's because you pretty much unofficially are!

[Bhopreign]

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[rizkybizness]

Haha, that's because you pretty much unofficially are!

same goes for RedBull.

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Roy may have won a Majority Decision against Tarver in that match,but he definetly didnt win the fight. Roy should've retired after John Ruiz. Imagine what people's perceptions today would've been on Roy if he had retired right after Ruiz? He would've definetly been a candidate for one of the best fighters of all time

He definitely won the fight.

He was the one coming out strong in the championship rounds. he was the one who wanted it, and he took it.

Tarver was just too lazy or maybe too tired because of the bull**** flurries he was throwing all night, or maybe because of the bodyshot he absorbed throughout the fight.

[supRa]

see you think because there was an 8 month time from ruiz to tarver, that for 8 months roy worked on getting back to LHW... well he didnt... he was looking at possibly a holyfield fight... then he decided to fight tarver...

he didnt start losing weight for the entire 8 months.. he did his 10 week training camp...


now when you have FAT on your body, losing 24 pounds... QUITE doable with a professional 10 week training camp... when you have NOTHING but muscle.... losing 24 POUNDS.. is HUGE... especially at 34-35 years old...

you have to run with a rubber suit on, then run some more, then run some more... and completely weight drain your entire body... lose 24 pounds of water and muscle... and THEN go fight a 12 round championship fight with a GOOD fighter...

and he WON!

now after the fight, u think hes just gonna keep all that water off and be dehydrated? no hes gonna go back up to where he was after the fight...

and guess what? 6 months later, hes gonna have to do it ALL OVER again... at 35 years old... theres no way, no how, that ISNT gonna take it out of you.... as ive said before.. u can pass out from doing NOTHING if your dehydrated, let alone being punched in the face... being dehydrated definitely takes away from your punch resistance...

with that said, tarver STILL landed a good punch on roy...

the johnson KO was 4 months after the tarver KO... and yet ANOTHER training camp right after the tarver fight... hes basically KILLING his body with this ****

and the 3rd fight with tarver... well that was basically... just GO 12 rounds and survive... i think anyone NORMAL would be gunshy after being iced twice..




all u have to do is look at the comparison below.. and know something is going on with the weight draining


Ruiz fight


8 months later, tarver fight...

good point

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I mean Jones looks green (as in his skin color) in the 1st fight...

In the 2nd fight he was doing well for 4 minutes and then he got iced.

By then he is 35...

All in all, it was bound to happen, Fighters who rely heavily on their reflexes and speed will look like **** pretty fast when they start going down the hill. Robinson (i know, i know, just compare before and after age 33 to get my point), Leonard, Whitaker to name a few...

Jones absolutely unorthodox style and his disregard for fundamentals (note i use "disregard for" and not "lack of" because I believe that's the case) left him completely unready for his aging self.

[THE REED]

I mean Jones looks green (as in his skin color) in the 1st fight...

In the 2nd fight he was doing well for 4 minutes and then he got iced.

By then he is 35...

All in all, it was bound to happen, Fighters who rely heavily on their reflexes and speed will look like **** pretty fast when they start going down the hill. Robinson (i know, i know, just compare before and after age 33 to get my point), Leonard, Whitaker to name a few...

Jones absolutely unorthodox style and his disregard for fundamentals (note i use "disregard for" and not "lack of" because I believe that's the case) left him completely unready for his aging self.

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