Someone explain to me the whole RJJ was weight drained against Tarver theory.

[Live Dog]

1) Jones goes up to HW in March of 03 and beats Ruiz.

2) In November of 03, just 8 months after the Ruiz fight Jones is able to beat Tarver.

3) In May of 04, with another 6 months time to get used to the weight again, Roy gets TKO'd.

4) In October of 05, with another 17 months time to get used to the weight, Roy gets decisioned by Tarver.

How does Roy look his best in the fight where hypothetically he should have been the most weight drained?

[bsrizpac]

1) Jones goes up to HW in March of 03 and beats Ruiz.

2) In November of 03, just 8 months after the Ruiz fight Jones is able to beat Tarver.

3) In May of 04, with another 6 months time to get used to the weight again, Roy gets TKO'd.

4) In October of 05, with another 17 months time to get used to the weight, Roy gets decisioned by Tarver.

How does Roy look his best in the fight where hypothetically he should have been the most weight drained?

3. Roy didn't decide to fight tarver for that 8months. During that time he was investigating Heavyweight matches. He only decided on Tarver at the very end of that 8 months. If memory serves had more like two months.

[Live Dog]

3. Roy didn't decide to fight tarver for that 8months. During that time he was investigating Heavyweight matches. He only decided on Tarver at the very end of that 8 months. If memory serves had more like two months.

Ok, but he still won that fight. Or are you talking about another fight?

[ИATAS]

good point. I always felt that Roy Jones was just past his prime. For whatever reasons, age, body starting to slow down or just getting caught/KO'd for the first time.

I mean, he lost three fights in a row after not losing a single fight his entire career. Getting KO'd twice then losing by UD all in a row is a clear sign you're done past your prime

[Fox McCloud]

1) Jones goes up to HW in March of 03 and beats Ruiz.

2) In November of 03, just 8 months after the Ruiz fight Jones is able to beat Tarver.

3) In May of 04, with another 6 months time to get used to the weight again, Roy gets TKO'd.

4) In October of 05, with another 17 months time to get used to the weight, Roy gets decisioned by Tarver.

How does Roy look his best in the fight where hypothetically he should have been the most weight drained?

Tarver kicked Roy's ass the first fight... he just decided to only do it for 5 rounds. Jones won 7 rounds based on Tarver's inactivity and nothing more. Tarver brutalized Roy for the 5 rounds he won.

Roy took more damage in the first fight than the third fight IMO.

[Live Dog]

Tarver kicked Roy's ass the first fight... he just decided to only do it for 5 rounds. Jones won 7 rounds based on Tarver's inactivity and nothing more. Tarver brutalized Roy for the 5 rounds he won.

Roy took more damage in the first fight than the third fight IMO.

Yeah, but Roy also refused to engage Tarver in the third match.

[PrettyBoyFloyd7]

Ok, but he still won that fight. Or are you talking about another fight?

Roy may have won a Majority Decision against Tarver in that match,but he definetly didnt win the fight. Roy should've retired after John Ruiz. Imagine what people's perceptions today would've been on Roy if he had retired right after Ruiz? He would've definetly been a candidate for one of the best fighters of all time

[Live Dog]

Roy may have one a Majority Decision against Tarver in that match,but he definetly didnt win the fight. Roy should've retired after John Ruiz. Imagine what people's perceptions today would've been on Roy if he had retired right after Ruiz? He would've definetly been a candidate for one of the best fighters of all time

Win, lose, or draw, he still looked the best in the first fight.

[THE REED]

see you think because there was an 8 month time from ruiz to tarver, that for 8 months roy worked on getting back to LHW... well he didnt... he was looking at possibly a holyfield fight... then he decided to fight tarver...

he didnt start losing weight for the entire 8 months.. he did his 10 week training camp...


now when you have FAT on your body, losing 24 pounds... QUITE doable with a professional 10 week training camp... when you have NOTHING but muscle.... losing 24 POUNDS.. is HUGE... especially at 34-35 years old...

you have to run with a rubber suit on, then run some more, then run some more... and completely weight drain your entire body... lose 24 pounds of water and muscle... and THEN go fight a 12 round championship fight with a GOOD fighter...

and he WON!

now after the fight, u think hes just gonna keep all that water off and be dehydrated? no hes gonna go back up to where he was after the fight...

and guess what? 6 months later, hes gonna have to do it ALL OVER again... at 35 years old... theres no way, no how, that ISNT gonna take it out of you.... as ive said before.. u can pass out from doing NOTHING if your dehydrated, let alone being punched in the face... being dehydrated definitely takes away from your punch resistance...

with that said, tarver STILL landed a good punch on roy...

the johnson KO was 4 months after the tarver KO... and yet ANOTHER training camp right after the tarver fight... hes basically KILLING his body with this ****

and the 3rd fight with tarver... well that was basically... just GO 12 rounds and survive... i think anyone NORMAL would be gunshy after being iced twice..




all u have to do is look at the comparison below.. and know something is going on with the weight draining


Ruiz fight


8 months later, tarver fight...

[Live Dog]

see you think because there was an 8 month time from ruiz to tarver, that for 8 months roy worked on getting back to LHW... well he didnt... he was looking at possibly a holyfield fight... then he decided to fight tarver...

he didnt start losing weight for the entire 8 months.. he did his 10 week training camp...


now when you have FAT on your body, losing 24 pounds... QUITE doable with a professional 10 week training camp... when you have NOTHING but muscle.... losing 24 POUNDS.. is HUGE... especially at 34-35 years old...

you have to run with a rubber suit on, then run some more, then run some more... and completely weight drain your entire body... lose 24 pounds of water and muscle... and THEN go fight a 12 round championship fight with a GOOD fighter...

and he WON!

now after the fight, u think hes just gonna keep all that water off and be dehydrated? no hes gonna go back up to where he was after the fight...

and guess what? 6 months later, hes gonna have to do it ALL OVER again... at 35 years old... theres no way, no how, that ISNT gonna take it out of you.... as ive said before.. u can pass out from doing NOTHING if your dehydrated, let alone being punched in the face... being dehydrated definitely takes away from your punch resistance...

with that said, tarver STILL landed a good punch on roy...

the johnson KO was 4 months after the tarver KO... and yet ANOTHER training camp right after the tarver fight... hes basically KILLING his body with this ****

and the 3rd fight with tarver... well that was basically... just GO 12 rounds and survive... i think anyone NORMAL would be gunshy after being iced twice..




all u have to do is look at the comparison below.. and know something is going on with the weight draining


Ruiz fight


8 months later, tarver fight...

That's a logical answer. I can accept that.