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  • pbftxrs316
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    Skillwise: Mayweather jr. all time?

    seeing how he is the premier boxer right now and has been since being p4p since 2005 and he recieves so much biased hate from people abroad, and his gets criticized fro his resume, where do you rank him as far as skillset all time.

    imo he's the most fluent fighter i've ever seen skillwise.

    his jab is one of the greatest thrown jabs ever
    his lead right hand ranks amongst the top 10 period
    his movement as far as head/upperbody movement is untouchable
    his left hook whether a counter check left hook or lead right hook is the sharpest thrown hook i've seen in decades
    his ability to fight in the pocket is amazing
    his ability to fight and counter off of the ropes is amazing
    he threw one of the greatest and sharpest combos in history against gatti in round 6 of their fight.
    his defense is the best of his era, no contest-blocking and slipping punches-countering off of the shoulder roll on the ropes or in the pocket, just beautiful
    his body work is completely underrated, he goes to the body whether with the jab or hook is a thing of beauty
    his ability to go from defense to offense whether to the head to the body or vica versa is a thing of beauty
    his ability to fight off of the back foot, damn near flawless
    his stance is one of a kind-he can keep his hands down and throw any punch or keep them up and threw any punch
    his accuracy and timing are oustanding---his stamina is amazing--he's a 15 round fighter
    his overall intelligence in the ring is the best i've seen in decades
    his ability to fight through injuries is amazing--i always said had he not had bad hands, his knockout ratio would be so much higher
    his overall skillset and brilliance in the ring ranks amonst the top 10, and imo him, ali, and sugar ray robinson are the most skilled fighters of their era and my top 3 most skilled all around fighters ever.
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    My god...

    You rated him exceptional in every single ****ing category...

    Dude, he's good in all of those, but... you think both his right hand and left hook are ATG material? Shocking. They are good and effective, but they really don't change fights on a regular basis.

    One thing that is lacking from Floyd's game is workrate, which gives the false impression that he has an incredible stamina. He never slows down in the later rounds, but then again, he never really goes nuts in the first few rounds, so... he never really breaks the amount of punches that most fighters get tired after throwing.

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    • KING •
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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #4
        tua's overall skills

        jab = liston-like
        cross = louis-like
        overhand = shavers-like
        hook = tua-like
        uppercut = tyson-like
        handspeed = patterson-like
        footwork = ali-like
        defense = toney-like
        chin = tua-like
        heart = frazier-like

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        • KING •
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          #5
          Tye Fields Overall Skills

          jab = god-like
          cross = god-like
          overhand = god-like
          hook = god-like
          uppercut = god-like
          handspeed = god-like
          footwork = god-like
          defense = god-like
          chin = god-like
          heart = god-like

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          • El Jesus
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            #6
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            My god...

            You rated him exceptional in every single ****ing category...

            Dude, he's good in all of those, but... you think both his right hand and left hook are ATG material? Shocking. They are good and effective, but they really don't change fights on a regular basis.

            One thing that is lacking from Floyd's game is workrate, which gives the false impression that he has an incredible stamina. He never slows down in the later rounds, but then again, he never really goes nuts in the first few rounds, so... he never really breaks the amount of punches that most fighters get tired after throwing.

            That would only apply to his campaign at welter and jr middle. I cant name a single time at 130/135/140 where he looked winded after really putting it on someone.

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            • Left Hook Tua
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              #7
              Originally posted by KING •
              Tye Fields Overall Skills

              jab = god-like
              cross = god-like
              overhand = god-like
              hook = god-like
              uppercut = god-like
              handspeed = god-like
              footwork = god-like
              defense = god-like
              chin = god-like
              heart = god-like
              g.o.d. = Goofy-looking Overhyped Dumbass
              Last edited by Left Hook Tua; 07-14-2008, 02:53 PM.

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              • -Swizzy-
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                #8
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                One thing that is lacking from Floyd's game is workrate, which gives the false impression that he has an incredible stamina. He never slows down in the later rounds, but then again, he never really goes nuts in the first few rounds, so... he never really breaks the amount of punches that most fighters get tired after throwing.
                true, but the workrate would be replaced with incredible boxing IQ. his workrate isn't as high as it is for a reason. if workrate is what it takes to win in boxing, than mayweather would have it.

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                • the_godslayer
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                  #9
                  one thing on that list i totally agree with is the bodywork, thats one area i feel that Floyd is underestimated/underrated. HIs jab to the body is an excellent one.

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                  • PrettyBoyFloyd7
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pbftxrs316
                    seeing how he is the premier boxer right now and has been since being p4p since 2005 and he recieves so much biased hate from people abroad, and his gets criticized fro his resume, where do you rank him as far as skillset all time.

                    imo he's the most fluent fighter i've ever seen skillwise.

                    his jab is one of the greatest thrown jabs ever
                    his lead right hand ranks amongst the top 10 period
                    his movement as far as head/upperbody movement is untouchable
                    his left hook whether a counter check left hook or lead right hook is the sharpest thrown hook i've seen in decades
                    his ability to fight in the pocket is amazing
                    his ability to fight and counter off of the ropes is amazing
                    he threw one of the greatest and sharpest combos in history against gatti in round 6 of their fight.
                    his defense is the best of his era, no contest-blocking and slipping punches-countering off of the shoulder roll on the ropes or in the pocket, just beautiful
                    his body work is completely underrated, he goes to the body whether with the jab or hook is a thing of beauty
                    his ability to go from defense to offense whether to the head to the body or vica versa is a thing of beauty
                    his ability to fight off of the back foot, damn near flawless
                    his stance is one of a kind-he can keep his hands down and throw any punch or keep them up and threw any punch
                    his accuracy and timing are oustanding---his stamina is amazing--he's a 15 round fighter
                    his overall intelligence in the ring is the best i've seen in decades
                    his ability to fight through injuries is amazing--i always said had he not had bad hands, his knockout ratio would be so much higher
                    his overall skillset and brilliance in the ring ranks amonst the top 10, and imo him, ali, and sugar ray robinson are the most skilled fighters of their era and my top 3 most skilled all around fighters ever.
                    I agree...Floyd is a throwback...He is one of the only fighters in today's era that could go 15 rounds..Mayweather spars 15 MINUTE ROUNDS, with different sparring partners coming in every few minutes to increase his stamina

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