Who should be ranked higher? Floyd or Jones Jr.?

[ELPacman]

LoL! All the people saying Floyd took the bigger risks. Floyd and risk don't go in the same sentence. If it's a risk, it's avoidable by Floyd. While I guess you can say that when comparing with Jones, I still think Jones took bigger risks. Tarver was a threat to him and he still faced him those 3 times knowing. Especially after the KO loss. He's got some heart there along courage to go against guy that KOs you. BTW-I called Fraud based on his accomplishments, not his skill/talent. Obviously Floyd has talent, just sad he wasted it and ran his mouth like a lil *****.

[ELPacman]

I agree that on paper Toney on paper is better than anyone that Mayweather has fought, but if we were judging on the circumstances then i would have that Corales was better than anyone that Jones has faced and presented a bigger challenge. While Toney was unbeaten, he had to be hospitalized and hooked up to Ivs before the fight from killing himself to make the 168 pound weight limit. People say that Corales was weight drained against Mayweather, when its simply an excuse IMO. Corales continued to fight dominately at super featherweight even after the loss to Mayweather and beat some very good opponents in the process. After Toney's loss to Jones, he immediately moved up to light heavyweight. Hatton was a very good fighter a well, but i must agree that he was past his weight class. Even then, he was still pound for pound one of the best fighters in the world. Judging by the circumstaces, Ruiz or Hill would probably be the best fighters that Jones has beaten IMO.

In Corrales defense, wasn't he just released from jail or something and his mind wasn't straight at all?

[El Jesus]

In Corrales defense, wasn't he just released from jail or something and his mind wasn't straight at all?

If thats the case, why dont we line up every single prefight excuse in the history of underdogs overcoming odds and defend that. chico took the fight, he lost, its his fault. nobody made him beat his wife. nobody made him feel unprepared, because if your going to do that, lets go ahead and give barreras excuses legitimacy since his training camp burned down and all that other bull****.

[Dan...]

LoL! All the people saying Floyd took the bigger risks. Floyd and risk don't go in the same sentence. If it's a risk, it's avoidable by Floyd. While I guess you can say that when comparing with Jones, I still think Jones took bigger risks. Tarver was a threat to him and he still faced him those 3 times knowing. Especially after the KO loss. He's got some heart there along courage to go against guy that KOs you. BTW-I called Fraud based on his accomplishments, not his skill/talent. Obviously Floyd has talent, just sad he wasted it and ran his mouth like a lil *****.

I think he did take risks. A perfect example is granting JLC an immediate rematch. Many people though Castillo won their first fight and he definately gave Floyd a lot of trouble so for Floyd to turn around and grant him an immediate rematch has a fairly significant risk element attached to it. Also, as slicksouthpaw mentioned, he was very quick to step up and take on the best at 130 very early in his career.

[Don Johnson]

wow. i picked jones jr. but that doesn't mean i agree with calling the most talented boxer of the next generation a fraud...

that gif of yours is awesome man. The first man to beat Hatton, Luis Collazo. RJJ All the way for me, he faced far greater opposition than Floyd and if he beats calzaghe and Peter...............damn

[The Hammer]

Easily, Roy Jones.

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Roy's fought better competition but Floyd is the more complete fighter. It gets closer if Floyd gets bac in the ring.

[El Jesus]

I think he did take risks. A perfect example is granting JLC an immediate rematch. Many people though Castillo won their first fight and he definately gave Floyd a lot of trouble so for Floyd to turn around and grant him an immediate rematch has a fairly significant risk element attached to it. Also, as slicksouthpaw mentioned, he was very quick to step up and take on the best at 130 very early in his career.

You have to understand that most of the people commenting here really dont know floyd or jones jr that well in all honesty. I dont mind anybody picking either over the other because its all a matter of opinion. But you have people here not remembering those blowout PPVs jones jr used to have (that never really had high buyrates), and how hed be in there with practical no-hopers and he really began to handpick his opposition. During this time you had floyd jr coming up at 130, and due to the fact that alot of people here didint follow that division nor were they paying attention to floyds run, alot of people dont know the signifigance of manfredy/chavez/carlos hernandez/genaro hernandez/chico etc.

Both jones jr and floyd jr had outstanding careers but to tell you the truth, floyd was in there with more people who at least had a chance in the prime of his career, thats what im going by.

[Dan...]

You have to understand that most of the people commenting here really dont know floyd or jones jr that well in all honesty. I dont mind anybody picking either over the other because its all a matter of opinion. But you have people here not remembering those blowout PPVs jones jr used to have (that never really had high buyrates), and how hed be in there with practical no-hopers and he really began to handpick his opposition. During this time you had floyd jr coming up at 130, and due to the fact that alot of people here didint follow that division nor were they paying attention to floyds run, alot of people dont know the signifigance of manfredy/chavez/carlos hernandez/genaro hernandez/chico etc.

Both jones jr and floyd jr had outstanding careers but to tell you the truth, floyd was in there with more people who at least had a chance in the prime of his career, thats what im going by.

I know a great deal about both fighters and I am a big fan of both so I am in a good position to judge. I have also seen every fight both ever fought that was recorded. For mine, you are underestimating Roy's opposition a little. They were blow out wins and some of the opponents were substandard for sure, but he also made some very good opposition look terrible. For mine, Roy deserves the higher status of the two in terms of p4p all time ratings. He was just so dominant at his best.

[El Jesus]

I know a great deal about both fighters and I am a big fan of both so I am in a good position to judge. I have also seen every fight both ever fought that was recorded. For mine, you are underestimating Roy's opposition a little. They were blow out wins and some of the opponents were substandard for sure, but he also made some very good opposition look terrible. For mine, Roy deserves the higher status of the two in terms of p4p all time ratings. He was just so dominant at his best.

I am not talking about you though, there are few people in here who know who they are who are making picks based on absolutely nothing but assumption.

For me personally, im in the crowd that thinks his best wins were ruiz/hill/pazienza/toney/hopkins/tarver

even the others im failing to mention were still good wins because roy just looked so ****ing awesome (supaman). But to me, he could have definately stepped it up by taking on more unified champs and taking on more european opposition that would have been a credit to his career.