is calzage an all time great if he beats rjj and retires undefeated???

[Dan...]

Blinded by nationality? Look at your avatar mate!

What the **** has that got to do with anything? I am from Australia. So what if Roy is my favourite fighter? Unlike others I can remain objective and discuss things rationally. You have barely mad a rational comment in this entire thread.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Because one took a risk and went to heavyweight, and came back down 25 pounds directly afterwards to fight the new LHW champion

Joe moved up and fought a 43 year old fighter...




That's why.........

Or one moved up and fought John Ruiz.

The other moved up and fought Bernard Hopkins.

[Sithis]

Roy Jones at 35/36 gets knocked spark out twice.

Calzaghe at 35/36 beats Kessler and Hopkins.

Why is one shot and the other at the peak of his powers?

are you that annoyed that Joe wont get much credit for beating Roy? Say what you like it wont change it.

[Monticello]

yes tarver and johnson are average and yes it is a weak division

Oh dear...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What the **** has that got to do with anything? I am from Australia. So what if Roy is my favourite fighter? Unlike others I can remain objective and discuss things rationally. You have barely mad a rational comment in this entire thread.

So what if Im British? You immediately assumed I was biased because of my nationality when you've got Roy Jones' face plastered all over your avatar. Bit rich isnt it?

Rational? Rational comments like "Joe was afraid to come out of his hometown". When he's probably fought more outside Wales than in it.

[THE REED]

Or one moved up and fought John Ruiz.

The other moved up and fought Bernard Hopkins.

u think moving from SMW to LHW... 7 POUNDS, to fight a 43 YEAR OLD FIGHTER....


IS EQUAL TO


roy going from LHW to HW...... 23 Pounds.... fighting a 3 years younger 30 year old 235 pound Heavyweight....... and then DROPPING 23 Pounds... to fight the NEW LHW champ the same age as him....



O RLY

[Dan...]

So what if Im British? You immediately assumed I was biased because of my nationality when you've got Roy Jones' face plastered all over your avatar. Bit rich isnt it?

Rational? Rational comments like "Joe was afraid to come out of his hometown". When he's probably fought more outside Wales than in it.

Ok, last thing I will say to you.

1) Some of your arguments are not logical. You seem obsessed with British fighters going by your sig, avatar and everything you post. There is nothing wrong with this, just don't try to get into debates with people because you are unable to see past your allegiances

2) The whole point was that you said B-Hop and Roy ducked Joe. The onus was on Joe to go to the US. The fact that he didn't go there, and never really let on that he wanted to, is proof enough that they did not duck him

3) Whilst I am a massive Roy fan I do not think I am biased. I do not dislike Calzaghe and I pick him to beat Roy. You, on the other hand, probably think Joe would just walk through a prime Roy and that is the difference between us.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

u think moving from SMW to LHW... 7 POUNDS, to fight a 43 YEAR OLD FIGHTER....


IS EQUAL TO


roy going from LHW to HW...... 23 Pounds.... fighting a 3 years younger 30 year old 235 pound Heavyweight....... and then DROPPING 23 Pounds... to fight the NEW LHW champ the same age as him....



O RLY

No actually I just think fighting Bernard Hopkins is harder than fighting John Ruiz.

If he applied himself, Im pretty sure Calzaghe could win a title at heavyweight in a one off fight too.

[Dan...]

no Actually I Just Think Fighting Bernard Hopkins Is Harder Than Fighting John Ruiz.

If He Applied Himself, Im Pretty Sure Calzaghe Could Win A Title At Heavyweight In A One Off Fight Too.

Wowwowowow. Holy ****!!!!!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Ok, last thing I will say to you.

1) Some of your arguments are not logical. You seem obsessed with British fighters going by your sig, avatar and everything you post. There is nothing wrong with this, just don't try to get into debates with people because you are unable to see past your allegiances

2) The whole point was that you said B-Hop and Roy ducked Joe. The onus was on Joe to go to the US. The fact that he didn't go there, and never really let on that he wanted to, is proof enough that they did not duck him

3) Whilst I am a massive Roy fan I do not think I am biased. I do not dislike Calzaghe and I pick him to beat Roy. You, on the other hand, probably think Joe would just walk through a prime Roy and that is the difference between us.

1) You make assumptions based on my avatar. My avatar is just facts. You have no idea about me or my motives or allegiances. But you've made assumptions based on my avatar. I do the same to you and you complain. Go figure.

2) How could he go there when they didnt wanna fight him? Is he supposed to go over, stand in a ring and wait for one of them to show up? He went lots of other places. If Roy wanted to fight in America , Calzaghe wouldve done it. I can show you exact quotes where he expresses a will to. You just wont listen.

3) But Im biased cos Im British? Of course. And again making assumptions. Never said anything about Calzaghe walking through Jones.