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Why? Ok....JC doesn't have power to last long at LHW much less jumping to HW. The weight will certainly affect his speed and workrate. Not to mention JC's "granite" chin has never fully been tested even at SMW. Lastly, JC doesn't have the heart to even consider such a feat which is why it humors me to see the RJJ and JC comparisons. I'd like to see JC after a fight say he wants Mike Tyson next. (Even the current Mike Tyson lol)Comment
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Roy Jones didnt rely on power at heavyweight.
The speed/workrate difference would still be massive against some of the useless lumps at heavyweight.
Never been tested? He got ripped with uppercuts and hard right hands against Kessler. Got caught with some good shots against Hopkins. Has never truly been hurt. And like Jones, hes hard to hit.
The heart? Where has he ever shown a lack of heart?Comment
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He didn't rely on power but he had enough to compete at that level, unlike JC. His speed and workrate would mean little because we can definitely agree they wouldn't be afraid of his power and walk right through him lol, and if saying Kessler was the hardest puncher he was in against is a basis for him winning a belt at HW is just absurd. Where has he shown a lack of heart? The fact he faces comfy opposition and opponents who pose little danger to him, minus Kessler, whether it be age or skill is where he shows the heart of a paycheck fighter. Funny we are talking about something you THINK JC can do yet RJJ DID IT is what seperates the two men. JC will never be a RJJ - ever.Comment
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No he didnt. Roy didnt have enough to hurt Ruiz badly. Gimmie a break.
Roy and Joe are both skillful enough and elusive enough to box rings round slow lumps like Ruiz without getting caught with anything ******. Thats what Im saying.
We've been through this. No one wanted to fight Calzaghe back in the day. Now hes earned his due finally at 36 and wants one last fight/payday. If you're basing this all on his wish to fight Jones over Pavlik, its quite laughable.Comment
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All time great super middleweight? Yes. All time great? Probably not if we're using the term correctly. Going by the standards of today, then maybe.
See the thing with Calzaghe is that he didn't fight the two biggest fighters of his time in their respective primes (Jones Jr, Hopkins) and people see this as proof that his resume is poor, which simply isn't fair. Calzaghe still beat four former champions, all of them highly Ring-ranked and all of his mandatories before he hit the big time with Lacy. A fight against Jones or Hopkins just wasn't there and that's a fact. Hopkins ducked Joe by accepting an offer to fight him in 2002 and then demanding double money the next day. As for Jones; well Roy didn't need the fight, that's for sure, but he didn't make it easy for any fighter to get a shot at him. Firstly Joe would have had to vacate his title, secondly he would have had to fight at least two 175 ranking fights for small paydays, to secure a mediocre payday against Jones. Yes, mediocre, because Jones was offering 30% to opponents at best. Calzaghe chose to take the route of making himself a big name at 168 first, in order to force a fight. Unfortunately there weren't the names in the division.
It doesn't make a difference to some people that all of the above is the truth, because some people just jump to conclusions without any evidence and stay at that conclusion no matter what.Last edited by P4P Opinion; 07-09-2008, 03:01 AM.Comment
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if you consider the 20 plus defenses hes done yeah but thats it.Comment
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also beating bernard hopkins, a man that not too many people can say they beat, helped him out too.Comment
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