is calzage an all time great if he beats rjj and retires undefeated???

[slicksouthpaw16]

This debate will be settled in the ring in two months.

Jones is many years past his prime. If this fight had happened a decade ago, then we could say that. However, basically everyone is expecting a Jones loss as he has gone down hill. He just doesn't have it anymore and the odds are in Calzaghe's favor, which wouldn't be the case had they fought in their younger days.

[bsrizpac]

Jones is many years past his prime. If this fight had happened a decade ago, then we could say that. However, basically everyone is expecting a Jones loss as he has gone down hill. He just doesn't have it anymore and the odds are in Calzaghe's favor, which wouldn't be the case had they fought in their younger days.

qft...but it'll be lost on that idiot.

[RichCCFC]

Jones is many years past his prime. If this fight had happened a decade ago, then we could say that. However, basically everyone is expecting a Jones loss as he has gone down hill. He just doesn't have it anymore and the odds are in Calzaghe's favor, which wouldn't be the case had they fought in their younger days.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194089&page=2

[bsrizpac]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...=194089&page=2

Hey look, it's the biggest ***** on the entire forum.

What does that Voting have to do with the point? Roy is shot. Joe is not. Joe is taking an easy fight.

Only an idiot like you would bring this up.

Oh and didn't you LIE about saying that Hatton would beat Mayweather? Don't you not pay your bets?

Coward.

And way to dodge the point: as usual.

[Randall_Hopkirk]

Arguably the best 168 fighter in history but not an all-time great.

[sparked_85]

nope.

Unless he beats Roy AND Pavlik.

I voted yes though.

[VIVA MEXICO!!]

Hey look, it's the biggest ***** on the entire forum.

What does that Voting have to do with the point? Roy is shot. Joe is not. Joe is taking an easy fight.

Only an idiot like you would bring this up.

Oh and didn't you LIE about saying that Hatton would beat Mayweather? Don't you not pay your bets?

Coward.

And way to dodge the point: as usual.

first time ive ever seen you use some plain and basic common sense. keep it up.

[joseph5620]

i think his resume is more of a joke than mayweather but he has accomplished some impressive things.

Calzaghes resume is more impressive than Margarito's. So what does that make Margarito's resume?

[Johnny Rebel]

P4P #3 baby!

Yeah only a tool would think someone is racist for not thinking Joe beating Jones' corpse proves anything.

Oh, and the word is "great" not "grate" you ******.

What does Hatton moving up in weight and losing (referee aided) to the P4P #1 fighter at the time FMJ have to do with Calzaghe or Hatton?

So I made a typo you ****ing imbecile, big deal...

[Johnny Rebel]

Jones is many years past his prime. If this fight had happened a decade ago, then we could say that. However, basically everyone is expecting a Jones loss as he has gone down hill. He just doesn't have it anymore and the odds are in Calzaghe's favor, which wouldn't be the case had they fought in their younger days.

I think people are underestimating Jones right now. Jones has looked better in every fight since he lost to Tarver by decision and looked really good against Tito. Both Jones and Calzaghe are past there best so I don't think that will be much of a factor in this fight.

If they fought 5-10 years ago I don't think the fight would be all that much different since both would be much better.