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  • At that point in his career he wasn't the same caliber a star as most of HBO's house fighters. Even then he was acting like a spoiled brat.
    sure he wasn't the same caliber star but he was certainly more skilled that some that were making more money.

    Floyd is immature and most of the time not very exciting to watch. Some of these other guys are humble andv exciting. Me personaly, I relate to the latter much more than the former. HBO has always praised Floyds talent and skill, but I can understand why they would put more into a fighter that the majority can relate to. That doesn't make it racial though.
    exciting, humble, and easy to relate to doesn't make them the most skilled.

    I don't agree with this entirely. The people who are paid the most are the ones who bring in the most. Floyd hasn't shown he can carry a show without another bonafied attraction fighting him, and he still gets huge money. What is there to complain about?
    tiger woods gets paid because he's the best and most skilled, not because golf ratings go up when tiger is playing in said tournament on TV.

    Only in boxing would someone like Tiger Woods get paid less than some other mediocre athlete because they are "exciting, humble, and easy to relate to".

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    • Originally posted by Horus View Post
      As a Commentator you can call Mayweather on his bull****...But you also have a responsibility to provide context...

      As a Commentator you can voice the concerns of the fans, but to be fair you must provide both sides of the argument From and for Both SET OF FANS...NOT JUST ONE...

      and more importantly if you go an 5 minute rant of how

      "Mayweather is Ducking Cotto"
      Equally You give a 5 minute explaining Mayweather's Point of View of not fighting Cotto.


      As a commentator you have to wear a Hat that fits on both Sides, not just one. Because like it our not... All Fans Dont agree that

      "Mayweather is a *****" or "Mayweather is Scared of Cotto"

      Fans of Both Sides, Pay to see Mayweather Fight, Not Just Floyd Haters...


      So it would be inappropriate for a commentator to say inflammatory things about Floyd, for one set of Fans, and not give equal representation of an argument for the other set of Fans.


      Like I said before:
      Would you go to Fox News TO GET a fair assesment of Barack *****..?

      And it is starting to get to the point where the HBO CREW are starting to become Floyd Mayweather's FOX NEWS


      ..

      That is how it should be.. I think HBO needs to be more objective in their commentating... For all fighters not just the ones they favor. Because Winky and Floyd would have a point if they said HBO plays favoritism instead of Racism..

      But I agree with this Post.

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      • Originally posted by sonofisis View Post
        But not the majority of Black boxing fans coz they aren't swayed by the politics, which is the point. That's why Winky and Floyd are sticking together on this one and rightfully so. I agree with them and have noticed it as well. It isn't all about styles either, it's political. Pavlik, Taylor was a perfect example for Floyd to give. After the first Taylor fight, Lampley sounded as if he was about to **** himself.
        politics has nothing to do in wether the fans like you or percieve you as exciting and entertaining or not.

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        • Originally posted by Sin City View Post
          politics has nothing to do in wether the fans like you or percieve you as exciting and entertaining or not.
          Like I said, Black fans [the majority] have no problem with them for obvious reasons. They observe the same manipulation that Floyd and Winky do in biased commentary that put more weight on less than traditional boxing styles and concepts in the art like ["hit and not get hit"] that have always been the hallmark of African-American fighters.
          Last edited by sonofisis; 07-06-2008, 05:18 PM.

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          • Originally posted by sonofisis View Post
            Like I said, Black fans [the majority] have no problem with them for obvious reasons. They observe the same manipulation that Floyd and Winky do in biased commentary that put more weight on less than traditional boxing styles and concepts in the art like ["hit and not get hit"] that have always been the hallmark of African-American fighters.
            Black fans aren't the only ones who watch the sport and not the majority who buy the PPVs. And I know black people who don't like either one of them so speak for yourself.
            The job of a commentator isn't just to voice their knowledge and their opinions but to voice the opinions of the boxing fans as well. People want to hear a commentator talk straight to a fighter not just kiss ass. For example.. Max Kellerman pushing Kelly Pavlik to say he wanted to fight Calzaghe after his last fight...
            Mayweather hasn't fought any really good opposition since his move to jr welterweight.. you think that he deserves or they are gonna give him a pat on the back for that? No.

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            • Floyd's "slave contract" comment. This always comes up and it's never presented in its right context so here it is.

              I believe it was 99 or 2000 when he was negotiating his new deal. Gatti at the time was also doing his, when Floyd saw Gatti's numbers in comparison to his he said, "thats a slave contract".

              Poor choice of words, ABSOLUTELY. But in terms of skill, level of fighter he was/is in comparison to Gatti, I can definitely see why he echoed that. Thats one reason why he wanted to fight Gatti for years prior to the fight actually being made.

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              • god not this bs lol

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                • Originally posted by Sin City View Post
                  Black fans aren't the only ones who watch the sport and not the majority who buy the PPVs. And I know black people who don't like either one of them so speak for yourself.
                  The job of a commentator isn't just to voice their knowledge and their opinions but to voice the opinions of the boxing fans as well. People want to hear a commentator talk straight to a fighter not just kiss ass. For example.. Max Kellerman pushing Kelly Pavlik to say he wanted to fight Calzaghe after his last fight...
                  Mayweather hasn't fought any really good opposition since his move to jr welterweight.. you think that he deserves or they are gonna give him a pat on the back for that? No.
                  I think Commentators have a responsibility to all fans to call the fight fair, and from all points of view, Not just one set of certain fans.

                  and also why would you say Floyd hasn't fought good fighters, when the last guy he fought was undefeated and highly ranked?

                  I'm new to boxing and all but i do know that Ricky Hatton was no joke.
                  Even some of my hardcore boxing friends Thought Ricky Hatton could beat Floyd.

                  So i give Floyd props for beating hatton.

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                  • Originally posted by Sin City View Post
                    Black fans aren't the only ones who watch the sport and not the majority who buy the PPVs.
                    I don't care. The point is the bias against Black people, specifically Black boxers. If HBO is willing to sell their souls while selling out Black people and Black fighters in the process, for a few ppv sales in an attempt to appeal to the majority, that is their prerogative. That doesn't negate the right of the minority though to speak truth to power and tell it like it is. This has always been the case. This is all ironic considering who brought HBO the most revenue over the years [**********]..

                    And I know black people who don't like either one of them so speak for yourself.
                    No, I'm speaking for the MAJORITY, not one or two outcasts.

                    The job of a commentator isn't just to voice their knowledge and their opinions but to voice the opinions of the boxing fans as well.
                    Not after they've already molded those opinions after years of trying to manufacture some theme that would be able to compete with other contact sports, such as the UFC.

                    People want to hear a commentator talk straight to a fighter not just kiss ass. For example.. Max Kellerman pushing Kelly Pavlik to say he wanted to fight Calzaghe after his last fight...
                    This is irrelevant. The job of the commentator above all else is to be fair and not disenfranchise, even the minority view since an appeal to popularity doesn't equate fact. This is a common rule of logic and is taught in critical thinking so I'm sure journalists know about it.
                    Mayweather hasn't fought any really good opposition since his move to jr welterweight.. you think that he deserves or they are gonna give him a pat on the back for that? No.
                    More of the same, garbled rhetoric I wish not to get into. Only some delusional spectator wouldn't consider Judah, De la Hoya and Hatton as good (let alone great) opposition. You are to clearly be ignored on that point.

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                    • I wouldn't go far enough to say that HBO is racist because some of the greatest fighters on their network have been African Americans and minority's. However when he complained that they are bias I can believe that. For example every few years HBO gets a young prospect usually from the most recent Olympics and they fall in love with them. After the 2000 games Jermain Taylor became the HBO man of choice. They put Jermain on the Boxing After Dark and showed him very often claiming he was " The Future of the Middle Weight Division" . In his first PPV and with about 25 fights he takes on Bernard Hopkins and doesn't beat him convincingly but gets the decision. After he defended his Title and wasn't as impressive as had been anticipated and then that's why the criticism came. He wasn't what they had thought he was and then they trashed him. Before Jermain Taylor lost to Pavlik he fought on HBO every couple months now Kelly beats him and HBO hasn't said his name one single time he cant even get a fight on HBO.

                      Cotto vs Gomez or Oscar dela Hoya vs Steve Forbes now look how much attention these fights got on HBO. Nobody Critized Miguel Cotto for fight Alfonzo Gomez who didn't have a "snowballs chance in hell" in a fight that had no significance in the division. Then Oscar dela Hoya fights Steve Forbes in what was basically a paid sparring session with a countdown show and its ok nobody cares the announcers even talk about how good Oscar looked even comparing him to his days back in the early 2000's. Now we all know Gomez and Forbes were basically sitting ducks guys that were paid to get beat up on TV and HBO will play it and make it seam to be ok.

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