Was Leonard as ragged on as Mayweather is?

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Mayweather will be remembered but so will Margarito in the same breath. When you look at a great boxer you also look at the errors or lows in his career.

Are you serious??? What do you mean?

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How could you even compare the two? I mean seriously, how? I mean I want to know what fart-cloud in your brain erupted and triggered the nerves in your brain to say it's ok to compare the two? lol Seriously?

Ray didn't duck anyone, I mean that **** he pulled in the rematch with Duran was *****-made lol, but that's about it. And didn't he leave Hagler hangin cause of an eye problem? Doctors advice due to a detatched retina or somthin? Not only that, but Ray jumped on the oppertunity to fight Hagler and Hearns.

Ray ducked Pryor.

The retina was a long time before the Hagler fight happened, adn had nothing to do with ”retiring“ to duck a rematch.

So you can definitely compare the two, if you don't have fart clouding your brain.

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Not fighting Miguel Cotto? Big ****ing deal when you look at the **** Leonard pulled in his career.

Fans like you put the sport in danger. Seriously. Miguel Cotto = the Tommy Hearns to Mayweather's Leonard. Big ****ing deal my ass.

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Monzon was something of a freak. I like Hagler better but I'm a bit in awe of Monzon. His terrible lifestyle (smoking, drinking) which seemed to be unable to dent his enormous stamina, the excessive violence of his character, contrasted with the unassuming normalcy of his style (name a fighter more difficult to identify what exactly set him apart) made for a fighter who is rarely mentioned in discussions but hard to ignore.

Wow!!! that's a great one liner on Monzon! good k

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I think SRL had somewhat more power than Mayweather, also more guts and a willingness to engage. I mentioned this on another thread, but wanted to reiterate. That, more than anything else, is why I think Mayweather falls short of Leonard's high regard. Not because of the power, but the latter....he's never taken any real risks. I think because he's a tad chinny. Corley rocked him pretty good, and if Corley were anything resembling a finisher, he'd have stopped Mayweather. Not that this makes him a worse fighter, but I think this is partly why he just doesn't take risks...to worried about getting his ass KO'd. Leonard didn't seem to give a ****.

You need to watch that round again...

[DiegoFuego]

Bottom Line: Ray Leonard pulled stuff far worse than Mayweather has probably even THOUGHT about trying, yet he is loved by everyone, including me.

The Mayweather hate will pass as quickly as Margarito and Cotto from any history books

[El Jesus]

Are you serious??? What do you mean?

He is overestimating what happened between margarito and mayweather. He has argued for years that margarito and mayweather will be mentioned in the same sentence and mayweather not fighting a guy who should be fighting at 154 and is 6'0 tall will drag down his career accolades. I think you know ferocity better than that.

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Fans like you put the sport in danger. Seriously. Miguel Cotto = the Tommy Hearns to Mayweather's Leonard. Big ****ing deal my ass.

or

Miguel Cotto = Aaron Pryor

or

Miguel Cotto = Mike McCallum

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I didn't even know half this stuff, I wasn't even born yet. But I can kinda see why fighters like Hopkins like to drop Haglers name more then Leonards, Hagler was a beast.

Hagler had it the hard way, before getting a title shot he had already cleaned the division, than when he got it, he got a draw which was not highway robbery, but not exactly on point accordingto many observers.

That's another reason why someone like Hopkins respect him and feel him.

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or

Miguel Cotto = Aaron Pryor

or

Miguel Cotto = Mike McCallum

Maybe. Either way, we're still waiting for Hearns to show up.