Have Mexican Fighters ever ducked oppoenents!?

[warp1432]

Morales ducked Marquez or Marquez ducked Morales. One of those

[ferocity]

[QUOTE=rogelio1289;3675143]watch this guys......HEY VIVA!! why didn't chavez rematch frankie Randell after the controversial 2nd fight? [/quote}

Because Randell fought Juan Coggi and the had to rematch him cause Coggi pretended to be hurt by an illegal punch. Basicaly Randell was caught up in the Coggi fights. King wanted Randell to pick up a title as he thought Randell was the goods.

why did chavez never choose to give pernell a rematch in the states? why didnt chavez fight tito?

Pernal Whitiker wanted Chavez to admit he lost before he'd accept a rematch with Chavez, which is what Chavez had asked Whitiker for.

Tito, who was Tito back then?

why did margarito turn down a paul wiliams rematch and fight kermit for less money?

Wheres the prof?

why did margarito back out of the first fight with cotto for less money? you seriously need to get your ass kicked by a white boy, a black guy, and an asain and for good sakes a canadian.

Margarito actually took the fight with Williams cause there was more money, and at the time Arum had not even told Margarito how much he could make for a Cotto fight. In other words, there was nothing on the table for Cotto bout yet, but the Williams fight brought him his biggest paycheck before signed Cotto fight.

Chavez realized it was not a good idea in the first place and was happy to finish on his feet. Everyone knows what happened in the rematch, its called robbery.

You ignorant habbits don't fail you, read what i wrote above.

Who believes Chavez really deserved a draw with Whitaker? No one. So why didn't Chavez rematch Whitaker to prove once and for all who was the better man? Not that guys with eyes like myself needed any further proof, but just to settle the issue once and for all.

I belive it was a draw. How did you score the 11 and 12 round in the Chavez v. Whitiker fight?

Read what i wrote above.

[Boofdatruth]

the majority of ducks ive read were rematches. With all fighters that isnt really a duck. If you get an ass whipping why go get a rematch and risk taking another beating. If you win, beating or close your on to bigger and better things. Rematch is optional.

Floyd did not duck cotto or margs. He didn't even have to fight Margs. That fight was offered up by Arum before Floyd hit 147. There are serious problems between Floyd and Arum that many truly don't know or care to hear about. Margs fans ran with that. Then Cotto fans ran with what Floyd said about Cotto getting his fan base up...forgetting that they didn't want the Floyd-Cotto fight at 140. As far as calzaghe, how can anyone think a 175 lb champion ducked the middleweight champion? How can you challenge a guy when you are 2 divisions away, and then ask him to fight at a catch weight? The word ducking does not apply to Floyd, Cal or any race. Most of the time when a fight isn't made, it's because of money. Everyone said J.M.M ducked The Pac rematch...comical. He wanted to be paid accordingly.

[ferocity]

Generally, Mexican fighters aren't exactly cash cows themselves, so they aren't the ones who have the power to fight whoever they want.

Margarito, for example, is a good fighter, but isn't the guy who brings the cash in. He is happy to fight Cotto, or Williams or whoever... because they are bigger cash money fighters than Sebastien Lujan for example.

Maybe that is why?

YOu're bull****nig us arn't you?

Ignorance!.

[Fox McCloud]

YOu're bull****nig us arn't you?

Ignorance!.

Lol, nope!

I think what I said is true!

I will say that Oscar is Mexican and a cash cow, and has fought EVERYONE that he could have in the beginning, middle and end (even though he is cutting in line for them) of his career. BEAST.

[ferocity]

Floyd did not duck cotto or margs. He didn't even have to fight Margs. That fight was offered up by Arum before Floyd hit 147. There are serious problems between Floyd and Arum that many truly don't know or care to hear about. Margs fans ran with that. Then Cotto fans ran with what Floyd said about Cotto getting his fan base up...forgetting that they didn't want the Floyd-Cotto fight at 140. As far as calzaghe, how can anyone think a 175 lb champion ducked the middleweight champion? How can you challenge a guy when you are 2 divisions away, and then ask him to fight at a catch weight? The word ducking does not apply to Floyd, Cal or any race. Most of the time when a fight isn't made, it's because of money. Everyone said J.M.M ducked The Pac rematch...comical. He wanted to be paid accordingly.

lol, try then explaining why Floyd turned down Margarito? Cause they didn't get along? floyd has never got along with delahoya but he accepted the first fight

[Boofdatruth]

[QUOTE=ferocity;3675558]

watch this guys......HEY VIVA!! why didn't chavez rematch frankie Randell after the controversial 2nd fight? [/quote}

Because Randell fought Juan Coggi and the had to rematch him cause Coggi pretended to be hurt by an illegal punch. Basicaly Randell was caught up in the Coggi fights. King wanted Randell to pick up a title as he thought Randell was the goods.



Pernal Whitiker wanted Chavez to admit he lost before he'd accept a rematch with Chavez, which is what Chavez had asked Whitiker for.

Tito, who was Tito back then?



Wheres the prof?



Margarito actually took the fight with Williams cause there was more money, and at the time Arum had not even told Margarito how much he could make for a Cotto fight. In other words, there was nothing on the table for Cotto bout yet, but the Williams fight brought him his biggest paycheck before signed Cotto fight.





You ignorant habbits don't fail you, read what i wrote above.



I belive it was a draw. How did you score the 11 and 12 round in the Chavez v. Whitiker fight?

Read what i wrote above.

I belive it was a draw. How did you score the 11 and 12 round in the Chavez v. Whitiker fight?


Everyone and their Mama knows Sweetpea won. Even the Mexican press thought Pea was robbed.

[CheGuevara]

Generally, Mexican fighters aren't exactly cash cows themselves, so they aren't the ones who have the power to fight whoever they want.

Margarito, for example, is a good fighter, but isn't the guy who brings the cash in. He is happy to fight Cotto, or Williams or whoever... because they are bigger cash money fighters than Sebastien Lujan for example.

Maybe that is why?

Are you new to the sport? Cause godamn your ****ing ******...Mexicans equal $$ in boxing, thats why u got Oscar de la Hoya, the biggest non heavyweight paid fighter in boxing history...Same with JCC... Morales, Barrera, they all get paid good.. why? because Mexicans love the sport and they support their countrymen... go shoot your self.

[Fox McCloud]

lol, try then explaining why Floyd turned down Margarito? Cause they didn't get along? floyd has never got along with delahoya but he accepted the first fight

I explained this earlier...

1. He got as much money for Carlos Baldomir.
2. Him winning The Ring, lineal, unified (even though Baldomir had the WBC belt, he had beaten the WBA and IBF champion as well) keeps him in the discussion for the biggest matches at WW... FOREVER! Don't you think if he decided to come back in 2011, wouldn't there automatically be talks for him to fight whoever is on top at the time (whether that be Cotto, Williams or Margarito). Long term, Baldomir was the much better fight for him $$$ wise.

[ferocity]

Lol, nope!

I think what I said is true!

I will say that Oscar is Mexican and a cash cow, and has fought EVERYONE that he could have in the beginning, middle and end (even though he is cutting in line for them) of his career. BEAST.

How do you then explain, Erik Morales? Or Fernando Vargas? Or Johnny Tapia? They've all done it there way and made tons of money.

Pacquiao wasn't **** in ppv/money wise untill he fought Morales a Morales that was defeated before taking on Pacquiao and Morales still beat him.

Stop hating on Mexicans you remember me of a young Max Kellerman.