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  • KnockoutTheFat
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    #91
    Originally posted by natas206
    Hopkins was one of those people. But yet he's just an "athletic criminal which reflected in the way he fought" apparently.
    I can only name a handful right now:
    Tye Fields (a given)
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Evander Holyfield (I dunno how the hell he does it at 45)
    B-Hop
    And apparently Chad Dawson's walking weight is LHW but I dunno about that
    I would put PBF on here but he's retired

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      #92
      Originally posted by KnockoutTheFat
      I never thought of it that way. There's only a handful of elite fighters that actually stay in-shape 24/7 and Winky ain't one of them. Although he probably was before Krispy Kreme opened...
      When he was young and fighting in France, I doubt that Euro diet allowed him to access a Donut shop. Maybe some Crepes. Lol...

      Originally posted by natas206
      Hopkins was one of those people. But yet he's just an "athletic criminal which reflected in the way he fought" apparently.
      Haha.. You still on that, man? Get over it.. B-Hop uses illegal tactics to gain a W. Whatever it takes. It reflects his criminal background. Just saying...

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        #93
        Originally posted by K-Nan

        Haha.. You still on that, man? Get over it.. B-Hop uses illegal tactics to gain a W. Whatever it takes. It reflects his criminal background. Just saying...
        lol, so now if you use illegal tactics in a sport, it reflects a criminal background? Damn, the majority of athletes must be criminals.

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          #94
          Originally posted by natas206
          yeah I agree.

          he gets a lot of **** on this site unfortunately because people focus on his trash talking, but the truth is he's accomplishment more then 99.99% of fighters inside AND outside of the ring.

          In addition he's not your typical rich athlete that is all flashy and whatnot, he gives a lot back to the community and does a lot of charity work.
          For the terrorism he caused the in the community, he owes the community twice as much.

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            #95
            Originally posted by natas206
            lol, so now if you use illegal tactics in a sport, it reflects a criminal background? Damn, the majority of athletes must be criminals.
            I dare you to name 2 fighters who use as many cheap tactics to gain a W as Bernard Hopkins.

            I mean, there is the rough fighter. And then there is B-Hop. Even the fans know this. Everybody does. Come on, man..

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              #96
              Originally posted by K-Nan
              I dare you to name 2 fighters who use as many cheap tactics to gain a W as Bernard Hopkins.
              Mike Tyson.
              Miguel Cotto.
              Andrew Golota.
              Sam Peter.

              I mean, there is the rough fighter. And then there is B-Hop. Even the fans know this. Everybody does. Come on, man..
              B-hop gets a very bad wrap for being a dirty fighter when he aint that bad.

              Against Cazlaghe what he do? clinch. Is that considered dirty? no, it's boring.
              Winky? Clinch.
              Tarver? Beat him down.
              Taylor II? Nothing.
              Taylor I? Nothing.
              De La Hoya? Nothing.
              Trinidad? Nothing.
              Glen Johnson? Nothing.
              Joppy? Nothing.
              Roy Jones? Nothing.

              The only time he was really dirty was against people like Robert Allen, who low blowed hopkins or whatever. In other words hopkins would get dirty with dirty fighters.

              I'm serious too, he really wasn't nearly as dirty as people made it out to be. I challenge people to list evidence of him being one of the dirtiest fighters. I should know - I have his whole career on DVD and I've always wondered which fights these dirty tactics occurred in.
              Last edited by ИATAS; 06-24-2008, 10:29 PM.

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                #97
                Originally posted by natas206
                Mike Tyson.
                Miguel Cotto



                B-hop gets a very bad wrap for being a dirty fighter when he aint that bad.

                Against Cazlaghe what he do? clinch. Is that considered dirty? no, it's boring.
                Winky? Clinch.
                Tarver? Beat him down.
                Taylor II? Nothing.
                Taylor I? Nothing.
                De La Hoya? Nothing.
                Trinidad? Nothing.
                Glen Johnson? Nothing.
                Joppy? Nothing.
                Roy Jones? Nothing.

                The only time he was really dirty was against people like Robert Allen, who low blowed hopkins or whatever. In other words hopkins would get dirty with dirty fighters.

                I'm serious too, he really wasn't nearly as dirty as people made it out to be. I challenge people to list evidence of him being one of the dirtiest fighters.
                Mike Tyson? He's just a psycho. Biting Evander's ear wasn't a tactic to get a W. So don't try that one. And Miguel Cotto's bad moves don't add up to B-Hop's bs.

                All those fights you listed.. There were several instances where he rabbit punched on the other side of the ref while in those clinches. He hits low in close quarters. He steps on the lead foot of fighters. Granted, alot of fighters do these things.. But B-Hop brings it all together.

                And I'm not even mentioning the famous Headbutt+Right hand lead combination. And did you forget the attempts to milk some point deductions against Calzaghe, when he got hit with slaps on the side of his belt?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by K-Nan
                  Mike Tyson? He's just a psycho. Biting Evander's ear wasn't a tactic to get a W.
                  Yes Mike tyson is a pyscho, that doesn't change the fact I'm right. He tried to break a mans arm, he's used elbows, bitten ears, low blow'd. All out of desperation to "try and get the w" (or prevent a beating/embarrassment).

                  Miguel Cotto was a joke (I'm a fan) but people always say he low blows when in trouble (i.e "trying to get the w").

                  And thanks for bringing up Holyfield, another guy that many people called a dirty fighter for headbutts, etc.

                  All those fights you listed.. There were several instances where he rabbit punched on the other side of the ref while in those clinches. He hits low in close quarters. He steps on the lead foot of fighters. Granted, alot of fighters do these things.. But B-Hop brings it all together.
                  LOL, so where are all the point deductions then? Where are all the fighters in the post fight interviews that lost complaining about these dirty tactics?

                  And I'm not even mentioning the famous Headbutt+Right hand lead combination.
                  Which fight are you referring too? The one where Calzaghe flaps his arms and leaps into bernards head?

                  And did you forget the attempts to milk some point deductions against Calzaghe, when he got hit with slaps on the side of his belt?
                  I think he was trying to milk TIME because he's ancient and out of breath. It was a low blow by calzaghe, whether or not it really moved bernards cup out of place or whatever he said is impossible for either you or I to know for certain.

                  Going back to my point which is it's ridiculous to relate a boxers fighting style to a criminal background.

                  I just think hopkins gets a bad wrap and I don't personally care if you don't like the man, but it irritates me when people downplay his achievements, both inside and outside the ring. The man came from poverty, went to jail, and changed his life around completely. stays in shape 24/7, hasn't drank alcohol in 20 years, was/is an advocate for boxer's rights, does charity work, etc. And yet he's just a criminal. I find it insulting.
                  Last edited by ИATAS; 06-24-2008, 10:47 PM.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by T-97
                    Watching Bernard Hopkins: Behind The Glory made me realise just how inspirational Hopkins could be perceived to be. Where he went from no where, and still helping out the guys in the position he was in.

                    Anyone else?
                    I'm sure he's a decent guy and all (though undoubtedly racist as hell), but the dirty fighter in him makes me dislike him immensely. I can tolerate alot of things in this sport (in mean Christ, I've even sat through a few ring entrances, and forced myself to listen to Jimmy Buffer announce fighters twice without muting the TV), but a dirty fighter is de****able and I can't stand him for that, and that alone.

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                    • K-Nan
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by natas206
                      Yes Mike tyson is a pyscho, that doesn't change the fact I'm right. He tried to break a mans arm, he's used elbows, bitten ears, low blow'd. All out of desperation to "try and get the w" (or prevent a beating/embarrassment).

                      Miguel Cotto was a joke (I'm a fan) but people always say he low blows when in trouble (i.e "trying to get the w").

                      And thanks for bringing up Holyfield, another guy that many people called a dirty fighter for headbutts, etc.



                      LOL, so where are all the point deductions then? Where are all the fighters in the post fight interviews that lost complaining about these dirty tactics?



                      Which fight are you referring too? The one where Calzaghe flaps his arms and leaps into bernards head?



                      I think he was trying to milk TIME because he's ancient and out of breath. It was a low blow by calzaghe, whether or not it really moved bernards cup out of place or whatever he said is impossible for either you or I to know for certain.

                      Going back to my point which is it's ridiculous to related a boxers fighting style to a criminal background.

                      I just think hopkins gets a bad wrap and I don't personally are if you don't like the man, but it irritates me when people downplay his achievements, both inside and outside the ring. The man came from poverty, went to jail, changed his life around. stays in shape 24/7, hasn't drank alcohol in 20 years, was/is an advocate for boxer's rights, does charity work, etc. And yet he's just a criminal. I find it insulting.
                      I remember B-Hop once saying "**** the National Cancer Society", all because of some stubborn bull****..

                      Again... None of the people you mentioned are on B-Hop's level of notoriety. It's not a coincidence. Mike Tyson? Come on... He's a guy who was just unstable, in and out of the ring. That wasn't a ploy to win the fight. Dude was just pissed.

                      And the right hand lead+Headbutt combo is all around. He leads with his right hand and his head. It wasn't just against Calzaghe. He gashed Winky up with it too..

                      But you feel how you feel, and I can agree to disagree. I didn't really wanna revisit this, neither. I know it sucks to have a fighter you like get criticized, man.

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