Where Is Roy Jones On The ATG List?

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  • Dorian
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    #81
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    oh im jus sittin in the background
    Finally you show up!
    top 10 i see, good choice

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    • THE REED
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      #82
      Originally posted by Dorian
      Finally you show up!
      top 10 i see, good choice
      realistically.... hes top 20

      if he beats joe... hes top 10


      based on skill alone, in his prime... hes top 5

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      • FkDaHtrs
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        #83
        Originally posted by Dorian
        Where do u rank Roy Jones on the ATG list as of now?


        Please Vote
        What do we do about the guys that didn't have the fortune to face many challenges in their careers? Throw them aside and label them unproven? Not me, I have Jones easily in the top ten.

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        • MWMerlino
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          #84
          Originally posted by Towelie
          I rank him top 10 but after hearing he did steroids I dont respect him as much. Either way though if he accomplished that without steroids I would put him in top 5 ATG
          What he used was an over the counter body supplement from GNC that became illegal after he started using it to train.

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          • Towelie
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            #85
            Originally posted by MWMerlino
            What he used was an over the counter body supplement from GNC that became illegal after he started using it to train.
            K thanks for clarifying that, Some ****** kid on youtube tried convincing me that jones took steroids and he has all these articles to proove it. Whatever never listen to idiots on youtube.

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            • Briandl
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              #86
              It's not just about who you beat, it's also about how you beat them.

              Say what you want about Virgil Hill, but Roy knocked him out with a body shot...

              A lot of guys have gone on to win belts after loosing to Roy Jones, look at Julio Gonzalez for instance, after Roy he went on to beat Glen Johnson and Dariusz Michalczewski (for the WBO title).

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              • Darkstar
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                #87
                Originally posted by Briandl
                It's not just about who you beat, it's also about how you beat them.

                Say what you want about Virgil Hill, but Roy knocked him out with a body shot...

                A lot of guys have gone on to win belts after loosing to Roy Jones, look at Julio Gonzalez for instance, after Roy he went on to beat Glen Johnson and Dariusz Michalczewski (for the WBO title).
                Julio Gonzalez TURNED out to be a DECENT fighter. When RJJ fought him he was very green 23 years old.

                See you know making RJJ a ATG is a stretch when you defend him beating a very young Julio Gonzalez by DECISION. lol

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                • Darkstar
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Briandl
                  It's not just about who you beat, it's also about how you beat them.

                  Say what you want about Virgil Hill, but Roy knocked him out with a body shot...

                  A lot of guys have gone on to win belts after loosing to Roy Jones, look at Julio Gonzalez for instance, after Roy he went on to beat Glen Johnson and Dariusz Michalczewski (for the WBO title).
                  Virgil "over the" Hill. Coming off a LOSS to Dariusz Michalczewski. Its too much it really is.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Darkstar
                    Julio Gonzalez TURNED out to be a DECENT fighter. When RJJ fought him he was very green 23 years old.

                    See you know making RJJ a ATG is a stretch when you defend him beating a very young Julio Gonzalez by DECISION. lol
                    Actually, Gonzalez was thought to be pretty decent prior to fighting Jones. That's why it was an HBO pay-per-view. Not that it did the world's best numbers but Bob Arum thought it was a great match-up of styles. Gonzalez was coming off a Fight of the Year win over Julian Letterlough, the overrated power puncher who people were already claiming would beat Jones.

                    I'm not sure what vast improvement you saw in Gonzalez two years later (he was green?) but funny how a lot of Jones opponents usually aren't "good enough" when they fight him but miraculously are afterwards (Hopkins, Woods, Gonzalez, Lucas, etc...).

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                    • Darkstar
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Actually, Gonzalez was thought to be pretty decent prior to fighting Jones. That's why it was an HBO pay-per-view. Not that it did the world's best numbers but Bob Arum thought it was a great match-up of styles. Gonzalez was coming off a Fight of the Year win over Julian Letterlough, the overrated power puncher who people were already claiming would beat Jones.

                      I'm not sure what vast improvement you saw in Gonzalez two years later (he was green?) but funny how a lot of Jones opponents usually aren't "good enough" when they fight him but miraculously are afterwards (Hopkins, Woods, Gonzalez, Lucas, etc...).
                      Because they were very young. Years later and many fights later they have some decent success. In Gonzales case he was 23 years old, thats green. At 26 he won the WBO belt. Fighters like Woods dont really help your cause, their decent at best. The Hopkins fight was a good win for the time. He was far from his best and didnt hit the p4p list untill years later. Actully its probably his best win, to this day people still talk about his boring close decision from 1993. lol

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