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    #31
    Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
    What a piss weak argument.

    I can't belive people are saying Miranda was ahead on the cards.

    He got KTFO in the 4th round.

    LMAO at this argument.
    I was not arguing anything. Someone stated that Abraham was ahead on all the judges' cards and I said that I was 99% sure that the commentators said after the fight that Miranda was up 2-1 on the scorecards before the fourth.

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      #32
      Originally posted by danc1984
      I was not arguing anything. Someone stated that Abraham was ahead on all the judges' cards and I said that I was 99% sure that the commentators said after the fight that Miranda was up 2-1 on the scorecards before the fourth.
      The point that someone even types that proves some boxing fans on here don't know anything.

      I mean he got KTFO in the 4th round. LMAO, that some people feel the need to post he was winning on the cards.

      The fact of the matter is Miranda was wildly over rated. Just like numerous American stars are being now. No matter whether they are American or not, but they are American based.

      I guess what im trying to say is that, American based fighters are automatically presumed as those not based in America. And it is very sad, and a degrading factor for our sport.

      To those absolute tools posting about Mundine in this thread, grow up. And to those calling me anti-american, grow up aswell. If you can't see the injustices which fighters like Abraham have had to suffer for years, until they got the chance to break into the US market, its quite ludicrous.

      Why it took Calzaghe towards the end of his career to score a fight on HBO/Showtime or whatever. Why Kessler is fighting overseas. Why Sturm is fighting overseas.

      And you have these cards with kids like Gamboa on it, absolutely baffles me.

      Gamboa is what 26? He has no defence. And everyone talks him up. Sure hes quick, but if he has a career half as glamorous as Kessler or Calzaghe i doubt it. Yet he has his own cards, and headlines cards.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
        The point that someone even types that proves some boxing fans on here don't know anything.

        I mean he got KTFO in the 4th round. LMAO, that some people feel the need to post he was winning on the cards.

        The fact of the matter is Miranda was wildly over rated. Just like numerous American stars are being now. No matter whether they are American or not, but they are American based.

        I guess what im trying to say is that, American based fighters are automatically presumed as those not based in America. And it is very sad, and a degrading factor for our sport.

        To those absolute tools posting about Mundine in this thread, grow up. And to those calling me anti-american, grow up aswell. If you can't see the injustices which fighters like Abraham have had to suffer for years, until they got the chance to break into the US market, its quite ludicrous.

        Why it took Calzaghe towards the end of his career to score a fight on HBO/Showtime or whatever. Why Kessler is fighting overseas. Why Sturm is fighting overseas.

        And you have these cards with kids like Gamboa on it, absolutely baffles me.

        Gamboa is what 26? He has no defence. And everyone talks him up. Sure hes quick, but if he has a career half as glamorous as Kessler or Calzaghe i doubt it. Yet he has his own cards, and headlines cards.
        Miranda is a Columbian who reps Puerto Rico you jackass. lol I mean get real.

        He's fought more than half of his pro fights outside of the United States and he's not a household fighter here.

        I don't know why you're making last night's events into some type of national war.



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          #34
          It really isn't that big an issue. Sorry it annoyed you to that extent.

          Maybe you wouldn't come off as being anti-American if you also gave some of the American fighters like Kelly Pavlik the credit they deserve. You claim that the Americans don't give credit to any international fighters that deserve it, and you may be right to a point, but then you go back and do the same thing by trying to take credit away from a guy like Kelly Pavlik who is clearly the rightful MW champ at the moment.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
            The point that someone even types that proves some boxing fans on here don't know anything.

            I mean he got KTFO in the 4th round. LMAO, that some people feel the need to post he was winning on the cards.

            The fact of the matter is Miranda was wildly over rated. Just like numerous American stars are being now. No matter whether they are American or not, but they are American based.

            I guess what im trying to say is that, American based fighters are automatically presumed as those not based in America. And it is very sad, and a degrading factor for our sport.

            To those absolute tools posting about Mundine in this thread, grow up. And to those calling me anti-american, grow up aswell. If you can't see the injustices which fighters like Abraham have had to suffer for years, until they got the chance to break into the US market, its quite ludicrous.

            Why it took Calzaghe towards the end of his career to score a fight on HBO/Showtime or whatever. Why Kessler is fighting overseas. Why Sturm is fighting overseas.

            And you have these cards with kids like Gamboa on it, absolutely baffles me.

            Gamboa is what 26? He has no defence. And everyone talks him up. Sure hes quick, but if he has a career half as glamorous as Kessler or Calzaghe i doubt it. Yet he has his own cards, and headlines cards.
            **** off. You are the biggest baby I have EVER seen post on this forum.
            Every time **** doesn't go your way in a thread, you make some kind of, "Well, thats it mates, I'm officially done..." thread.
            Well, then be a man of your WORD, and ****ing LEAVE. Talking about people GROWING up. Look in the mirror, you *****.

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              #36
              Originally posted by RunW/Knives
              Miranda is a Columbian who reps Puerto Rico you jackass. lol I mean get real.

              He's fought more than half of his pro fights outside of the United States and he's not a household fighter here.

              I don't know why you're making last night's events into some type of national war.
              Jackass?

              You can't even read can you?

              "American based fighters"

              Your an idiot. An uneducated one aswell, because you can't read my post, and take the logical conclusions from it.

              I didn't make it a hate thread.

              I said US based fighters have a much bigger advantage in securing HBO/Showtime fights.

              Whereas fighters like Calzaghe, Kessler, Abraham, of much better pedigree and all round class have to wait countless extra years!

              Wake up to yourself!

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                #37
                Jesus die already.

                You realize that I don't like Pavlik but I'd root for him like hell just to clean out your precious yet crappy smw division?



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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sweet pea 50
                  **** off. You are the biggest baby I have EVER seen post on this forum.
                  Every time **** doesn't go your way in a thread, you make some kind of, "Well, thats it mates, I'm officially done..." thread.
                  Well, then be a man of your WORD, and ****ing LEAVE. Talking about people GROWING up. Look in the mirror, you *****.
                  Your a fkn idiot.

                  Actually i could go further.

                  Why don't you leave?

                  I haven't seen any good threads from you. In fact you rarely post right?

                  Because i don't even know you.

                  Fkn moron.

                  Ignore list.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                    Jesus die already.

                    You realize that I don't like Pavlik but I'd root for him like hell just to clean out your precious yet crappy smw division?
                    Wow a 27 year old who talks like a 17 year old.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by danc1984
                      It really isn't that big an issue. Sorry it annoyed you to that extent.

                      Maybe you wouldn't come off as being anti-American if you also gave some of the American fighters like Kelly Pavlik the credit they deserve. You claim that the Americans don't give credit to any international fighters that deserve it, and you may be right to a point, but then you go back and do the same thing by trying to take credit away from a guy like Kelly Pavlik who is clearly the rightful MW champ at the moment.
                      Yeh it is a big issue. The fact that it took the US so long to find out who Arthur was, as Pavlik said "no one in the US knows him".

                      Is a disgrace.

                      P.S I thought Taylor won the 2nd fight.

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